Hi!

What is your favorite editor for povray in Linux? Which one would you 
recommend? Coming from Windows, I was spoiled with the built-in Pov 
editor and I am searching for something similar.

I use Ubuntu.

I already tried with Gedit (not enough), Scite (the best so far), 
PovClipse (much too much resource hungry) and wxPyvon (unfinished and no 
longer active?), but none have all the nice features of the window version.

I'd like to have:
* Easy pov options editing
* Code completion
* Insert menu
* Contextual pov help
* Hide and show image, with partial rendering
* Auto indent
* Open include files

Would no such editor exist in the Linux world? I am not very happy at 
the thought that I'll have to run WinPov in Wine =_=' I might even have 
to reboot Windows >_<


Povingly,

Philippe

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> Hi!
> 
> What is your favorite editor for povray in Linux? Which one would you 
> recommend? Coming from Windows, I was spoiled with the built-in Pov 
> editor and I am searching for something similar.
> 
> I use Ubuntu.
> 
> I already tried with Gedit (not enough), Scite (the best so far), 
> PovClipse (much too much resource hungry) and wxPyvon (unfinished and no 
> longer active?), but none have all the nice features of the window version.
> 
> I'd like to have:
> * Easy pov options editing
> * Code completion
> * Insert menu
> * Contextual pov help
> * Hide and show image, with partial rendering
> * Auto indent
> * Open include files

I'd add:

* pause and stop rendering (very important)
* jump to / highlight error line
* autosave before render and one-keypress render
* column selection and manipulation
* multiple splitview
* block indent/dedent and block comment/uncomment

Many other features would be useful, but these are rather essential...

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Philippe Debar schrieb:
> Hi!
> 
> What is your favorite editor for povray in Linux? Which one would you 
> recommend? Coming from Windows, I was spoiled with the built-in Pov 
> editor and I am searching for something similar.
> [...]

Well - the short answer is: if you want Windows use Windows.  Seriously! 
  There is no point in using something different if you don't want to 
accept a different philosophy in doing things.

One central thing is that Unix users tend to insist using the same 
editor for most editing tasks.

Your list of requirements can be split into two parts: 1) general editor 
features, most advanced editors offer these.  2) POV-Ray specific 
requirements, most general purpose editors won't offer those.  And for 
some (like a pause function) there isn't even support in POV-Ray.

That said a short list of editors:

the classics:

Emacs, Vi

others:

Kate, SciTE, Eclipse, jEdit, ...

-- Christoph

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Christoph Hormann schrieb:
> others:
> 
> Kate, SciTE, Eclipse, jEdit, ...

Eclipse and jEdit are highly extensible through plug-ins to support new 
programming languages and/or compilers. Maybe it's possible to have such 
a plugin for POV-Ray too. It would be available on every platform that 
supports Java.

Bonsai

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Bonsai scripsit::
> Christoph Hormann schrieb:
>> others:
>>
>> Kate, SciTE, Eclipse, jEdit, ...
> 
> Eclipse and jEdit are highly extensible through plug-ins to support new
> programming languages and/or compilers. Maybe it's possible to have such
> a plugin for POV-Ray too. It would be available on every platform that
> supports Java.

Please look for povclipse (plugin for eclipse...)




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 > Bonsai scripsit::
 >> Christoph Hormann schrieb:
 >>> others:
 >>>
 >>> Kate, SciTE, Eclipse, jEdit, ...
 >> Eclipse and jEdit are highly extensible through plug-ins to support new
 >> programming languages and/or compilers. Maybe it's possible to have such
 >> a plugin for POV-Ray too. It would be available on every platform that
 >> supports Java.
 >
 > Please look for povclipse (plugin for eclipse...)

As I wrote in my original message, I already did. It is quite good but 
suffers from huge drawbacks:

* Developed for Windows ; Linux is "Not tested yet, but reported to 
run". Can't find any plan to change this state.

* I had to fight a bit too much to my taste to make it work.

* I cannot get code completion to work at all.

* Why doesn't the delete key want to work?!?

* The render settings dialog is rather temperamental.

* No forum (the author doesn't seem to check those on Sourceforge very 
often and they are not advertised on the main site), no community.

* It is sooo sloooowww and resource heavy.


Thanks anyway.

//Philippe

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 > Philippe Debar schrieb:
 >> Hi!
 >>
 >> What is your favorite editor for povray in Linux? Which one would you
 >> recommend? Coming from Windows, I was spoiled with the built-in Pov
 >> editor and I am searching for something similar.
 >> [...]
 >
 > Well - the short answer is: if you want Windows use Windows.  Seriously!
 >  There is no point in using something different if you don't want to
 > accept a different philosophy in doing things.

Who said I don't want to accept a different philosophy? I am just 
searching for the right tool. But it seems the typical linux 
fragmentation results in a dozen of tools, none of which are complete :(


 > One central thing is that Unix users tend to insist using the same
 > editor for most editing tasks.

It is a tendency and not rule, isn't it? I know some hardcore unix guru 
will use the same editor for everything : for writing code, a letter or 
a book, to create web pages, to do spreadsheets and even to edit images. 
I think many linux/unix users will also use a IDE to program, an text 
editor to edit their configurations files, an office program to write 
letters or do spreadsheets, a web-dev IDE for their internet needs and a 
(or rather several) image editor to edit images. If it were not so, how 
and why would all those program exist in the first place?

Should really using (or wanting to use) a specialized tool be considered 
an heresy?

 > Your list of requirements can be split into two parts: 1) general editor
 > features, most advanced editors offer these.  2) POV-Ray specific
 > requirements, most general purpose editors won't offer those.  And for
 > some (like a pause function) there isn't even support in POV-Ray.

Will there be?


Povingly,

Philippe

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> Christoph Hormann schrieb:
>> others:
>>
>> Kate, SciTE, Eclipse, jEdit, ...
> 
> Eclipse and jEdit are highly extensible through plug-ins to support new 
> programming languages and/or compilers. Maybe it's possible to have such 
> a plugin for POV-Ray too. It would be available on every platform that 
> supports Java.



Thanks, anyway...

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Philippe Debar schrieb:


There is only syntax highlightning for the POV-SDL at the moment. A 
plug-in that supports starting of render processes etc. has to be developed.

Bonsai

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Philippe Debar <phdebarAscarlet.be> wrote:
> What is your favorite editor for povray in Linux?

  I use (a highly configured) emacs with pov-mode. It looks like this:

http://tag.povray.org/povQandT/EmacsPovFrontend.png

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