gRRosminet <pov### [at] les-charlesnet> wrote in message
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> the stable release of qtpoveditor v0.3.0 has been published. The
> ressources package have also been updated with a new help.
>

Hmmm, maybe I'm missing something obvious, but how do I tell it where the
help files are?  It only looks at http://qtpoveditor.sf.net

Somewhere local would be nice...

RG

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A copy of the help is in the ressources package. If you want to use them 
instead of the online version, y'ou'll have to modify line 506 in file 
"poveditmainwindow.ui.h"

gonzo wrote:
> gRRosminet <pov### [at] les-charlesnet> wrote in message
> news:405dbde9@news.povray.org...
> 
>>the stable release of qtpoveditor v0.3.0 has been published. The
>>ressources package have also been updated with a new help.
>>
> 
> 
> Hmmm, maybe I'm missing something obvious, but how do I tell it where the
> help files are?  It only looks at http://qtpoveditor.sf.net
> 
> Somewhere local would be nice...
> 
> RG
> 
>

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> http://qtpoveditor.sf.net

Excellent work, thank you for this editor! It compiled without problem 
under linux slackware 9.1, gcc 3.3.3, qt 3.2.3. I use it every day now.

Here is the list of my wishes (is this the right place to post them?):

1. Insert menu entries are not recursive. I mean if the insert menu path 
contains a deep structure of directories only the first level *.txt 
files are displayed in the insert menu (see below)

2. When quitting, even if all files are saved, the editor keeps asking 
about open files and if it should save some of them. When there are 
unsaved files, this is the normal behavior, but otherwise is somewhat 
annoying.

3. It would be nice to have a small preview for the insert menu items 
where there is a *.bmp file available (standard windows povray 
distribution does that) - it helps a lot the beginners like me :-)
(maybe also an option somewhere to disable this feature if it is 
annoying for more experienced users)

4. after running povray it shoud be nice to have a non modal windows 
displaying the resulted image. Right now I use am image viewer and 
refresh the image every povray run, but again, it is a little bit 
annoying. Kpovmodeler has a window like this which displays the image 
being rendered while it is rendered, with a progress bar and a speed 
indication (in kpixels/sec). I know kpovmodeler is a kde program, but 
maybe Qt can do that also.


Concerning the first point, I wrote a (very) small patch to parse 
recursively the insert menu path and display *.txt files found as nested 
menu items. I use insert menu add-on(s) from Friedrich Lohmueller site 
and some others and the directory structure is recursive many times deep.

If anyone is interested, drop me a mail.If Thierry accepts patches maybe 
I can send it to him (it's really a small modification).

Happy raytracing for all!

Marin

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gRRosminet wrote:
> A copy of the help is in the ressources package. If you want to use them 
> instead of the online version, y'ou'll have to modify line 506 in file 
> "poveditmainwindow.ui.h"

Thanks, I'll check it out.  The online help is too unreliable on my 
tempermental dial-up.

This would be good to have as an option in the preferences.

Everything else looks great! Thanks for your considerable effort!

RG

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Marin Ferecatu wrote:
> 
>> http://qtpoveditor.sf.net
> 
> 
> Excellent work, thank you for this editor! It compiled without problem 
> under linux slackware 9.1, gcc 3.3.3, qt 3.2.3. I use it every day now.
> 
> Here is the list of my wishes (is this the right place to post them?):
> 
> 1. Insert menu entries are not recursive. I mean if the insert menu path 
> contains a deep structure of directories only the first level *.txt 
> files are displayed in the insert menu (see below)
> Concerning the first point, I wrote a (very) small patch to parse 
> recursively the insert menu path and display *.txt files found as nested 
> menu items. I use insert menu add-on(s) from Friedrich Lohmueller site 
> and some others and the directory structure is recursive many times deep.
 > If anyone is interested, drop me a mail.If Thierry accepts patches
 > maybe I can send it to him (it's really a small modification).

==> Of course I want it ! actualy, I was realy hurry ti get something 
working, but I can remember that doing something recursive would not be 
a hard work to do it. I'll integrate it into the source if you've done it !

> 
> 2. When quitting, even if all files are saved, the editor keeps asking 
> about open files and if it should save some of them. When there are 
> unsaved files, this is the normal behavior, but otherwise is somewhat 
> annoying.

==> I know, I know ... this was the easiest solution. I think I'll do 
something for this

> 
> 3. It would be nice to have a small preview for the insert menu items 
> where there is a *.bmp file available (standard windows povray 
> distribution does that) - it helps a lot the beginners like me :-)
> (maybe also an option somewhere to disable this feature if it is 
> annoying for more experienced users)

==> If you do it, it'll be integrated, but I don't think I'll do it 
(previews are frequently non-representative)

> 
> 4. after running povray it shoud be nice to have a non modal windows 
> displaying the resulted image. Right now I use am image viewer and 
> refresh the image every povray run, but again, it is a little bit 
> annoying. Kpovmodeler has a window like this which displays the image 
> being rendered while it is rendered, with a progress bar and a speed 
> indication (in kpixels/sec). I know kpovmodeler is a kde program, but 
> maybe Qt can do that also.

==> Of course, this can be done using QT. Personnaly, I use the povray 
output with the "Pause when done" option. Perhaps a viewer could be added.

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>> 4. after running povray it shoud be nice to have a non modal windows 
>> displaying the resulted image. Right now I use am image viewer and 
>> refresh the image every povray run, but again, it is a little bit 
>> annoying. Kpovmodeler has a window like this which displays the image 
>> being rendered while it is rendered, with a progress bar and a speed 
>> indication (in kpixels/sec). I know kpovmodeler is a kde program, but 
>> maybe Qt can do that also.
> 
> 
> ==> Of course, this can be done using QT. Personnaly, I use the povray 
> output with the "Pause when done" option. Perhaps a viewer could be added.

I also like the image window of the windows version and I tried to patch 
your editor to do the same. I ran into problems because the image 
POV-Ray produces is only a valid image file when the render has finished 
(which is quite understandable). There are image-viewers out there which 
can display "broken" (=unfinished) PNG-images (which was the only type I 
tested it with), but unfortunately I could not get Qt to display such 
files. If anyone finds a solution for this problem, I'd be happy to do 
the rest :)
If this would mean to much work another option would be to display only 
the finished image. This is however not really a solution, IMHO, but a 
bad workaround.

Florian

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Just checked the KPOVModeler sources to see how they do it. Seems (was a 
quick glance, ok? *g*) that they are first buffering the image without 
writing it to disk and later convert it after the user selected the 
image output format.
Looks like just another workaround to me. But OTOH, it may be impossible 
to do it in another way without patching POV-Ray (what would be a bad 
idea, because you could not use other patches like MegaPOV with the editor).

Florian

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Just got another feature idea:

how about supporting povray-patches? Let the user add all the patches 
like MegaPOV or mlPOV or whatever he has installed in some config file, 
together with the new keywords which they introduce. Add a list box to 
the render options to let the user decide which render engine he wants 
to use.
This would also allow users for example to use stable releases and beta 
releases on the same file without much hassle. I know that one can 
simply change the command line for POV-Ray, but hey, this is about 
usability (wow, I actually managed to use this "new" oh-so-hot-topic in 
a real discussion *g*).

Florian

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If I well understand, you would like to be able to create profiles 
containing the keywords list and the command ?

Florian Brucker wrote:
> Just got another feature idea:
> 
> how about supporting povray-patches? Let the user add all the patches 
> like MegaPOV or mlPOV or whatever he has installed in some config file, 
> together with the new keywords which they introduce. Add a list box to 
> the render options to let the user decide which render engine he wants 
> to use.
> This would also allow users for example to use stable releases and beta 
> releases on the same file without much hassle. I know that one can 
> simply change the command line for POV-Ray, but hey, this is about 
> usability (wow, I actually managed to use this "new" oh-so-hot-topic in 
> a real discussion *g*).
> 
> Florian
>

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> If I well understand, you would like to be able to create profiles 
> containing the keywords list and the command ?
Yep. Although the keywords aren't that important, but would be simply a 
nice thing to have :)

Florian

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