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From: Darren New
Subject: Three Vista annoyances so far
Date: 2 Jan 2009 19:50:00
Message: <495eb638@news.povray.org>
1) I can't figure out, when you're viewing the contents of a directory in 
explorer, you can right-click on the directory itself conveniently. This 
changed between 98 and 2000, 2000 and xp, and now between xp and vista, and 
this time they seem to have done an *excellent* job of hiding it away.

2) If you're copying between computers with RDP, and you are half way thru 
copying a big directory outwards, and you select a different directory and 
pick edit->copy, it stops copying the directory you were copying. I'm pretty 
sure you used to be able to paste two copies at once on XP. In any case, 
that's rather annoying.

3) If you open a directory, then right-click on something, it doesn't always 
give you the menu for the thing you clicked on. You actually have to hover 
long enough for the item to select before right-click will give you the 
right menu. I.e., right-click doesn't select what you're clicking on. Duh.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   The NFL should go international. I'd pay to
   see the Detroit Lions vs the Roman Catholics.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Three Vista annoyances so far
Date: 4 Jan 2009 22:30:44
Message: <49617ee4$1@news.povray.org>
Number four:

Sometimes you click on something, and it takes a moment to start, and you 
aren't sure whether what you did worked, you don't always get your 
hourglass-style cursor. The only way to tell if the dialog is busy sometimes 
is to move the cursor over a button and see if you get the little blue 
highlight on it fading in and out.  I can't tell you how often I've clicked 
on the wrong thing because the click got accepted the first time and it just 
didn't respond for a few seconds.

The number of times Vista lets the focus get stolen is annoying too. XP was 
real good at that, and I understand Vista tries to prevent pop-unders or 
something by not letting you *not* steal the focus. Seems like the wrong 
answer, to me.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Why is there a chainsaw in DOOM?
   There aren't any trees on Mars.


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Three Vista annoyances so far
Date: 4 Jan 2009 23:05:01
Message: <web.496185d1a841313ae44542980@news.povray.org>
Don't worry.  Microsoft is busy to sell you W7 still this year after the Vista
FAIL.

Here's my number-one ("advanced", so to speak) user complaint:  how do I get to
that damned address bar in Explorer and IE (well, they are really the same)
with the keyboard?  Previously, I would type CTRL+E and be there.

Yes, I know CTRL+L or CTRL+O will open a location dialog with full address
completion and all.  But I don't like dialogs, specially that hideous old
search that keeps getting in the way... more than that, the previous shortcut
worked perfectly fine, why drop it?


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Three Vista annoyances so far
Date: 5 Jan 2009 00:05:40
Message: <49619524$1@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> Here's my number-one ("advanced", so to speak) user complaint:  how do I get to
> that damned address bar in Explorer and IE (well, they are really the same)
> with the keyboard?  Previously, I would type CTRL+E and be there.

According to
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-us/help/2503b91d-d780-4c80-8f08-2f48878dc5661033.mspx
(thank you google) it's F4 now. Is that what you mean?

I don't use IE except when absolutely necessary, so give that a go and see 
if it works for you.  HTH!

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Why is there a chainsaw in DOOM?
   There aren't any trees on Mars.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Three Vista annoyances so far
Date: 5 Jan 2009 00:09:38
Message: <49619612$1@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> Here's my number-one ("advanced", so to speak) user complaint:  how do I get to
> that damned address bar in Explorer and IE (well, they are really the same)
> with the keyboard?  Previously, I would type CTRL+E and be there.

And a link off that page says something about ALT+D being "select the text 
in the address bar" for IE. Try one or the other, and retrain your fingers. ;-)

(I'm mildly annoyed that neither KDE nor GNOME default to opening the menu 
when you hit the Windows key. It would seem that adding that functionality 
would make it friendlier to Windows users, given that I don't think the 
Windows key is used for anything at all in either of those desktops.)

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Why is there a chainsaw in DOOM?
   There aren't any trees on Mars.


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Three Vista annoyances so far
Date: 5 Jan 2009 01:15:00
Message: <web.4961a4b2a841313ae44542980@news.povray.org>
Holy cow!  It's true!  Well, one less gripe to go.  I don't use IE much either,
but it' annoying to point the mouse to the address bar anytime I wanna go
somewhere like \\uranus\this\deep\down...


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Three Vista annoyances so far
Date: 5 Jan 2009 01:20:00
Message: <web.4961a5a6a841313ae44542980@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> (I'm mildly annoyed that neither KDE nor GNOME default to opening the menu
> when you hit the Windows key. It would seem that adding that functionality
> would make it friendlier to Windows users, given that I don't think the
> Windows key is used for anything at all in either of those desktops.)

Yes, it's the most useless of all keys, as much as Scroll lock perhaps! ;)


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Three Vista annoyances so far
Date: 5 Jan 2009 01:39:18
Message: <4961ab16$1@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> Yes, it's the most useless of all keys, as much as Scroll lock perhaps! ;)

I've actually used scroll lock on occasion. It's sysreq I've never had to 
use. :-)  That looked more like a function in search of a problem, to me. 
Multi-task switching functionality hardcoded into the keyboard, immediately 
followed by the release of Windows. Ouch. :-)

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Why is there a chainsaw in DOOM?
   There aren't any trees on Mars.


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From: Phil Cook v2
Subject: Re: Three Vista annoyances so far
Date: 5 Jan 2009 04:35:50
Message: <op.um92a1vfmn4jds@phils.mshome.net>
And lo On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 05:09:37 -0000, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom>  
did spake thusly:

> And a link off that page says something about ALT+D being "select the  
> text in the address bar" for IE. Try one or the other, and retrain your  
> fingers. ;-)

Same for Firefox too, which is handy trick to know.

-- 
Phil Cook

--
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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Three Vista annoyances so far
Date: 5 Jan 2009 12:52:07
Message: <496248c7@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> 
> The number of times Vista lets the focus get stolen is annoying too. XP
> was real good at that, and I understand Vista tries to prevent
> pop-unders or something by not letting you *not* steal the focus. Seems
> like the wrong answer, to me.
> 

That one of the most annoying things with XP. Focus stealing, I mean.
It's not even rare that I'm writing something (at work), *some* pop-up
comes up and I have no idea what it said, since I just hit enter or
spacebar. IMO only the critical messages from OS should appear like that
and have OK-button disabled for 5 secs oslt, so they could be even
noticed before hitting enter. Of course configurability would be optimal
choice - let everyone choose what level of focus stealing they want.

-Aero


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