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Warp wrote:
> Since you can compile C++ code for the iPhone, I wonder if POV-Ray could
> be compiled for it with some tweaking...
Depends whether libpng and all the other dependencies can be compiled
too, I would imagine.
Still, POV-Ray used to run on MS-DOS, AmigaOS and various other exotic
places, so it's not implausible that this might work.
The question is "would you want to?"
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:07:13 +0200, Invisible <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
>
>> Since you can compile C++ code for the iPhone, I wonder if POV-Ray
>> could
>> be compiled for it with some tweaking...
>
> Depends whether libpng and all the other dependencies can be compiled
> too, I would imagine.
>
> Still, POV-Ray used to run on MS-DOS, AmigaOS and various other exotic
> places, so it's not implausible that this might work.
>
> The question is "would you want to?"
If I'm not by my PC and I have my phone with me, why not? Even trying new
variations on the RSOCP can be fun when you're bored ;)
-Nekar Xenos-
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>> The question is "would you want to?"
>
> If I'm not by my PC and I have my phone with me, why not?
1. Because it will take approximately 250 years to render anything.
2. Because you'd need to be able to type things.
3. Because the screen only has a resolution of 120x80 anyway.
4. PROFIT!
> Even trying new variations on the RSOCP can be fun when you're bored ;)
Heh. I guess I must have been really, *really* bored that time I derived
a set of pencil and paper calculations for drawing a black and what
RSoCP image by hand...
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:16:59 +0200, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>>> The question is "would you want to?"
>> If I'm not by my PC and I have my phone with me, why not?
>
> 1. Because it will take approximately 250 years to render anything.
>
Hey, I designed cars on a 33MHz with blobs in Pov-Ray 3.1
> 2. Because you'd need to be able to type things.
>
Mine has a qwerty keyboard
> 3. Because the screen only has a resolution of 120x80 anyway.
>
240x320
I could make backgrounds for my cell-phone ;)
> 4. PROFIT!
>
>> Even trying new variations on the RSOCP can be fun when you're bored ;)
>
> Heh. I guess I must have been really, *really* bored that time I derived
> a set of pencil and paper calculations for drawing a black and what
> RSoCP image by hand...
I tried that with a Madelbrot set once... Never finished it. completed it
on my 48k ZX Spectrum back in the day...
Hmm... how about a Mandelbrot renderer then on cell-phones...
-Nekar Xenos-
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> I recently found out that my LG KS360 supposedly has a 400MHz proccessor.
> IIRC I used to run Pov-Ray 3.1 on a 333Mhz machine in 1997. My cellphone
> is a lot slower than the 33MHz Celeron I had to work on back then,
Different architecture completely. How do you mean your phone is "a lot
slower"?
> Would it be possible to make a simple .jar ray-tracer to run on a
> cell-phone?
Yes. I made a couple of simple jar applications to just show test patterns
on various phones. IIRC I had to download the Java SDK and the Nokia SDK,
was a bit of a fiddle to get set up, but it was all free software and even
came with an emulator. Not sure whether using Java and .jar files would
give the best speed though, compiling directly to machine code would
probably be faster (eg from a C or C++ type langauge). This probably
requires a commercial compiler though, IDK.
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Nekar Xenos wrote:
> Hmm... how about a Mandelbrot renderer then on cell-phones...
I'd be *astonished* if there isn't an iPhone app for that. ;-)
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Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> >> The question is "would you want to?"
> >
> > If I'm not by my PC and I have my phone with me, why not?
> 1. Because it will take approximately 250 years to render anything.
The iPhone 3GS has a 800+ MHz CPU, so it's not exactly slow.
> 2. Because you'd need to be able to type things.
Strictly speaking, you can, even if it's a bit slower than on a full-sized
PC keyboard.
But you could just put .pov files on the iPhone (or download them from
the net) and render them.
> 3. Because the screen only has a resolution of 120x80 anyway.
480x320 on the iPhone, actually. But POV-Ray has never been limited to the
screen resolution.
--
- Warp
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Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Nekar Xenos wrote:
> > Hmm... how about a Mandelbrot renderer then on cell-phones...
> I'd be *astonished* if there isn't an iPhone app for that. ;-)
If there isn't, I could make one.
--
- Warp
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On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 14:27:30 +0200, scott <sco### [at] scottcom> wrote:
>> I recently found out that my LG KS360 supposedly has a 400MHz
>> proccessor. IIRC I used to run Pov-Ray 3.1 on a 333Mhz machine in 1997.
>> My cellphone is a lot slower than the 33MHz Celeron I had to work on
>> back then,
>
> Different architecture completely. How do you mean your phone is "a lot
> slower"?
>
It take ages to show the thumbnails of the images on my memory card...
>> Would it be possible to make a simple .jar ray-tracer to run on a
>> cell-phone?
>
> Yes. I made a couple of simple jar applications to just show test
> patterns on various phones. IIRC I had to download the Java SDK and the
> Nokia SDK, was a bit of a fiddle to get set up, but it was all free
> software and even came with an emulator. Not sure whether using Java
> and .jar files would give the best speed though, compiling directly to
> machine code would probably be faster (eg from a C or C++ type
> langauge). This probably requires a commercial compiler though, IDK.
>
That would be great! =)
-Nekar Xenos-
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>>> If I'm not by my PC and I have my phone with me, why not?
>
>> 1. Because it will take approximately 250 years to render anything.
>
> The iPhone 3GS has a 800+ MHz CPU, so it's not exactly slow.
I thought we were talking about the 400 MHz Nokia thing? Well anyway,
whatever.
>> 2. Because you'd need to be able to type things.
>
> Strictly speaking, you can, even if it's a bit slower than on a full-sized
> PC keyboard.
In my limited experience, quite a lot slower. (Mind you, that was partly
due to the predictive text that couldn't be disabled...)
> But you could just put .pov files on the iPhone (or download them from
> the net) and render them.
True, but why render something that somebody else has already rendered?
It would seem that you'd want to make something new yourself...
>> 3. Because the screen only has a resolution of 120x80 anyway.
>
> 480x320 on the iPhone, actually. But POV-Ray has never been limited to the
> screen resolution.
I meant more that at such low resolutions there wouldn't be much *point*
to it, that's all. ;-)
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