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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Either my computer's PSU has taken a dive, or SpeedFan is readingthesensorsincorrectly
Date: 27 Feb 2011 09:28:03
Message: <4d6a5f73$1@news.povray.org>
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Am 27.02.2011 13:54, schrieb Mike Raiford:
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> Looking at this, the +12 rail is indeed 12.xx, generally fluctuating
> between 12.1 and 12.2, so I think it's perfectly OK.
Definitely so. There's much more tolerance allowed on the +/-12V rails
than that.
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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Either my computer's PSU has taken a dive, or SpeedFan is readingthesensorsincorrectly
Date: 28 Feb 2011 12:33:45
Message: <4d6bdc79@news.povray.org>
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On 27/02/2011 3:52 AM, Sherry Shaw wrote:
> Do our parents hold the reins of our later lives by virtue of the names
> with which they saddle us? It's a scary thought.
They do and it is.
I was labelled with an unusual first name and kept it until I started
I remember quite a few years ago reading that people who have unusual
first names find it harder to get on at work.
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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Either my computer's PSU has taken a dive, or SpeedFan is readingthesensorsincorrectly
Date: 28 Feb 2011 12:35:09
Message: <4d6bdccd$1@news.povray.org>
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On 26/02/2011 11:54 PM, clipka wrote:
>> I've not seen my i7 laptop go into turbo
>
> It may be disabled by the BIOS or chipset or whatever; after all,
> typically Laptops go for low energy consumption, whereas turbo is going
> for maxed performance.
I checked and it's not but no matter as I'm happy with its performance.
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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Either my computer's PSU has taken a dive, or SpeedFan is readingthesensorsincorrectly
Date: 1 Mar 2011 20:24:53
Message: <4d6d9c65@news.povray.org>
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On 26/02/2011 11:54 PM, clipka wrote:
>> Any idea what the max working temperature is?
>
> Not really. I think back then I found some information indicating that
> around 90 degrees Celsius is a "healthy" upper value, but I can't give a
> guarantee for that information.
I think I found out :-(
Round about 94/5 degrees C my laptop shut down. I had been Poving with
SSLT all day.
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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Either my computer's PSU has taken a dive, or SpeedFan is readingthesensorsincorrectly
Date: 2 Mar 2011 00:26:04
Message: <4d6dd4ec@news.povray.org>
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Am 02.03.2011 02:24, schrieb Stephen:
>> Not really. I think back then I found some information indicating that
>> around 90 degrees Celsius is a "healthy" upper value, but I can't give a
>> guarantee for that information.
>
> I think I found out :-(
> Round about 94/5 degrees C my laptop shut down. I had been Poving with
> SSLT all day.
Good to know that its self-protection mechanisms are working.
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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Either my computer's PSU has taken a dive, or SpeedFan is readingthesensorsincorrectly
Date: 2 Mar 2011 05:26:57
Message: <4d6e1b71@news.povray.org>
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On 02/03/2011 5:26 AM, clipka wrote:
>> I think I found out :-(
>> Round about 94/5 degrees C my laptop shut down. I had been Poving with
>> SSLT all day.
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> Good to know that its self-protection mechanisms are working.
That is a positive way to look at it :-D
Rendering on 6 cores keeps the temperature in the high eighties.
BTW do you know if the "duty cycle" has been disabled in 3.7?
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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Either my computer's PSU has taken a dive, or SpeedFan is readingthesensorsincorrectly
Date: 2 Mar 2011 19:00:34
Message: <4d6eda22$1@news.povray.org>
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Am 02.03.2011 11:26, schrieb Stephen:
> Rendering on 6 cores keeps the temperature in the high eighties.
That's virtual cores I guess?
> BTW do you know if the "duty cycle" has been disabled in 3.7?
Yup. There had been some discussion whether to re-implement it, but it
was decided not to, because the only purposes why anyone would ever want
to throttle POV-Ray were thought to be keeping the system responsive
(which would be served better by setting the thread priority), and/or
avoiding thermal problems in zero gravity environments (after all that's
the very reason it was implemented in the first place). Looks like
nobody anticipated the power hunger of SSLT then.
But let's see how the recent changes to SSLT affect its power hunger.
I'd expect it to get back closer to normal rendering, as it now traces
most of the rays against the full scene as well, not just the SSLT
object itself.
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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Either my computer's PSU has taken a dive, or SpeedFan is readingthesensorsincorrectly
Date: 3 Mar 2011 06:13:35
Message: <4d6f77df$1@news.povray.org>
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On 03/03/2011 12:00 AM, clipka wrote:
> Am 02.03.2011 11:26, schrieb Stephen:
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>> Rendering on 6 cores keeps the temperature in the high eighties.
>
> That's virtual cores I guess?
>
>> BTW do you know if the "duty cycle" has been disabled in 3.7?
>
> Yup. There had been some discussion whether to re-implement it, but it
> was decided not to, because the only purposes why anyone would ever want
> to throttle POV-Ray were thought to be keeping the system responsive
> (which would be served better by setting the thread priority), and/or
> avoiding thermal problems in zero gravity environments (after all that's
> the very reason it was implemented in the first place). Looks like
> nobody anticipated the power hunger of SSLT then.
>
I used it a few years ago when the laptop I had then was overheating a lot.
> But let's see how the recent changes to SSLT affect its power hunger.
> I'd expect it to get back closer to normal rendering, as it now traces
> most of the rays against the full scene as well, not just the SSLT
> object itself.
Lets see indeed. (Any hint as to when?)
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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Either my computer's PSU has taken a dive, or SpeedFan is readingthesensorsincorrectly
Date: 3 Mar 2011 08:28:48
Message: <4d6f9790$1@news.povray.org>
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On 3/1/2011 7:24 PM, Stephen wrote:
> On 26/02/2011 11:54 PM, clipka wrote:
>>> Any idea what the max working temperature is?
>>
>> Not really. I think back then I found some information indicating that
>> around 90 degrees Celsius is a "healthy" upper value, but I can't give a
>> guarantee for that information.
>
> I think I found out :-(
> Round about 94/5 degrees C my laptop shut down. I had been Poving with
> SSLT all day.
>
Wow! Mine has yet to kick off. In fact, with as much SSLT rendering as I
have been doing lately, the system has remained quite stable. I guess
the cooling on my PC is working.
According to the temp sensors on the die core 0 reached the boiling
point at some time. (!) I'm guessing I was at work, it was warm outside
I call inaccurate reading. No way it could be that hot and survive. Core
0 always seems to read rather hot.
CPU (As a whole, measured from the sensor under the socket) reads a max
of 88 and a min of 33. That seems reasonable. The heat sink must be
working, though, because the core temps drop from 90-40 within seconds
after a render has ended.
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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Either my computer's PSU has taken a dive, or SpeedFan is readingthesensorsincorrectly
Date: 3 Mar 2011 09:14:56
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On 03/03/2011 1:28 PM, Mike Raiford wrote:
> Wow! Mine has yet to kick off. In fact, with as much SSLT rendering as I
> have been doing lately, the system has remained quite stable. I guess
> the cooling on my PC is working.
>
Remember I'm using a laptop with no extra cooling.
> According to the temp sensors on the die core 0 reached the boiling
> point at some time. (!) I'm guessing I was at work, it was warm outside
>
> I call inaccurate reading. No way it could be that hot and survive. Core
> 0 always seems to read rather hot.
>
Yes I would be suspicious of a reading greater than 100.
> CPU (As a whole, measured from the sensor under the socket) reads a max
> of 88 and a min of 33. That seems reasonable. The heat sink must be
> working, though, because the core temps drop from 90-40 within seconds
> after a render has ended.
Cool down time seems good.
Indecently my dual core is running at about 48 degrees after a couple of
hours of SSLT. I'll just run my big laptop on 6 cores, just now.
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Stephen
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