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This problem with the Kinect was predicted even before it was released,
and it does indeed seem to happen:
http://failblog.org/2010/11/10/epic-fail-video-kinect-fail/
http://failblog.org/2011/01/26/epic-fail-video-kinect-awareness-fail/
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- Warp
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Warp wrote:
> This problem with the Kinect was predicted even before it was released,
> and it does indeed seem to happen:
>
> http://failblog.org/2010/11/10/epic-fail-video-kinect-fail/
> http://failblog.org/2011/01/26/epic-fail-video-kinect-awareness-fail/
>
I liked the one where he punted his cat right into the camera.
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"How did he die?" "He got shot in the hand."
"That was fatal?"
"He was holding a live grenade at the time."
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Warp escreveu:
> This problem with the Kinect was predicted even before it was released,
> and it does indeed seem to happen:
>
> http://failblog.org/2010/11/10/epic-fail-video-kinect-fail/
> http://failblog.org/2011/01/26/epic-fail-video-kinect-awareness-fail/
wiimote all over again... but instead of holding a small plastic remote
controller and eventually throw it at the TV, you may throw an actual
tennis racket. Or just play it safe, hold nothing and try not to run at
the TV...
--
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nemesis wrote:
> wiimote all over again...
It's actually pretty cool, because it is actually sensing your whole body.
So instead of the sports thing saying "run in place with the remote in your
pocket" (giving you a pedometer kind of interface) it says things like "do
this yoga pose... no, lift your left arm higher..." I thought that was
kind of neat.
The other games I've seen are rather lame, tho. Hopefully they'll get
better, but it's hard to imagine how you're gonna take something like Batman
and turn it into a kinect game.
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
"How did he die?" "He got shot in the hand."
"That was fatal?"
"He was holding a live grenade at the time."
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On 28/01/2011 04:46 PM, Darren New wrote:
> nemesis wrote:
>> wiimote all over again...
>
> It's actually pretty cool
It's a cool idea, but from what I've seen, almost all of these motion
sense devices are laughably inaccurate, which means they're next to useless.
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Invisible wrote:
> On 28/01/2011 04:46 PM, Darren New wrote:
>> nemesis wrote:
>>> wiimote all over again...
>>
>> It's actually pretty cool
>
> It's a cool idea, but from what I've seen, almost all of these motion
> sense devices are laughably inaccurate, which means they're next to
> useless.
The accuracy (or, more specifically, the precision) is rather low, but
they're only useful if you want a high-precision output from them. :-) You
work around it in the same way you work around trying to run a ninja attack
with only six buttons.
But that's what I was saying - the kindle is orders of magnitude more
accurate than the Wii or whatever they're calling the PS3 thing, exactly
because it's actually dealing with more than one point of input. It knows
where *each* of your joints is with about the same precision as the Wii
knows where *one* of your hands is.
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
"How did he die?" "He got shot in the hand."
"That was fatal?"
"He was holding a live grenade at the time."
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Darren New escreveu:
> The other games I've seen are rather lame, tho. Hopefully they'll get
> better, but it's hard to imagine how you're gonna take something like
> Batman and turn it into a kinect game.
you won't. New controllers mean new kinds of games, not adapting old
stuff to the new scheme.
I mean, think of the hard non-stop arcade action of God of War (and to a
lesser extent, Batman): a demi-god slashing his way through endless
hordes of demons with two chained blades. You'd only be able to stand
such action if you had those very demi-god muscles.
also, moving the protagonist is hard without an analog directional pad:
do you run into your screen or do you simply do the moonwalk and
simulate you're running?
--
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nemesis wrote:
> Darren New escreveu:
>> The other games I've seen are rather lame, tho. Hopefully they'll get
>> better, but it's hard to imagine how you're gonna take something like
>> Batman and turn it into a kinect game.
>
> you won't. New controllers mean new kinds of games, not adapting old
> stuff to the new scheme.
Yep, that was my point.
> also, moving the protagonist is hard without an analog directional pad:
> do you run into your screen or do you simply do the moonwalk and
> simulate you're running?
I suspect we'll eventually come up with a standard set of gestures, just
like everyone uses a mouse to point, and everyone uses the left stick to
move and the right stick to look around. Sort of "Hacker and the Ants" kind
of thing.
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
"How did he die?" "He got shot in the hand."
"That was fatal?"
"He was holding a live grenade at the time."
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nemesis <nam### [at] gmail com> wrote:
> Warp escreveu:
> > This problem with the Kinect was predicted even before it was released,
> > and it does indeed seem to happen:
> >
> > http://failblog.org/2010/11/10/epic-fail-video-kinect-fail/
> > http://failblog.org/2011/01/26/epic-fail-video-kinect-awareness-fail/
> wiimote all over again...
Not really. The vast majority of Wii games can be played while sitting,
and you don't usually need to swing the controller around all that much.
Just slight movements are enough.
As for the Kinect, you cannot play it while sitting, and many of the
games are such that you need to make large rapid movements, and then
happens what you see on the videos. As I mentioned, this problem was
predicted even before the Kinect was released.
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- Warp
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> The other games I've seen are rather lame, tho.
Yeah, the Kinect has opened rather poorly in terms of quality. From what
I have seen, at least half of the Kinect games published so far have got
extremely poor reviews. Rushed games which have been published as soon as
possible to capitalize on the new technology, without much effort and
polishing.
Unless the Kinect suffers the same fate as the Power Glove (which I don't
think it will; it's Microsoft after all), the games will certainly get
better.
(Ok, not *everything* by Microsoft becomes a hit. For example Microsoft's
answer to the iPod/iPhone, in other words, Zune, is a laughing stock of
almost everybody. Not that it's bad per se. It's just such a weak attempt
at competing with Apple.)
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- Warp
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