On 14/01/2011 7:43 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> The one from last Monday.
>

I missed it. :-(

> I'd find it hard to believe you haven't been listening since they started
> up 3 weeks ago.:-)
>

I know, I've been listening to them offline. I've just downloaded it. 
ipdl.exe has stopped working and I'm using "Web PVR Manager" to record 
things. It is not the easiest interface I have used.
I thought that I had listened to it but it must have been S54 e2 the one 
with the Swanee Kazoo.

So Wheesht while I get on with it ;-)

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On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:08:29 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 14/01/2011 7:43 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> The one from last Monday.
>>
> I missed it. :-(

That's what "Listen Again" is for (but you knew that <g>).

>> I'd find it hard to believe you haven't been listening since they
>> started up 3 weeks ago.:-)
>>
>>
> I know, I've been listening to them offline. I've just downloaded it.
> ipdl.exe has stopped working and I'm using "Web PVR Manager" to record
> things. It is not the easiest interface I have used. I thought that I
> had listened to it but it must have been S54 e2 the one with the Swanee
> Kazoo.
> 
> So Wheesht while I get on with it ;-)

I found a link to the WMA files and have been converting them to MP3 to 
listen to.  Quality's not quite so good (I really wish they'd make it 
available as a podcast), but we can listen to them.

The weird thing is that on my computers, I can listen on "listen again", 
but apparently the iPhone link (which iplayer_dl uses) hasn't been 
updated with the files.  But if I try to listen on my phone (using the 
built-in web browser or the installed Firefox browser I put on it a few 
weeks ago), I get a message saying that I can't listen to it because I'm 
not in the UK.

But on my PCs (all of them), it plays from those same links.

So the first episode, we actually hooked a laptop up to the clock radio 
in the bedroom.

What I've taken to is using mplayer to dump the audio from the WMA stream 
to a WAV file and then converting that.  Messy, and if it times out I 
have to start over (and it has to play through the entire programme 
rather than just downloading it), but as a guy I used to work with used 
to say, "if it's stupid but it works, it ain't stupid". <g>

Jim

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On 14/01/2011 8:21 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> But on my PCs (all of them), it plays from those same links.

As you were!
I liked “Hit me with your Battle Hymn” and the “House of the Rising 16”. 
{One of the best I can remember was Willy Russell singing “I Belong To 
Glasgow to the tune of Deutschland Uber Alles” (s5 e2). That was a good 
programme as it also had, “I Feel Pretty to the tune of Beethoven's 5th 
Symphony”. “The Hokey-Cokey to the tune of As Long As He Needs Me” and 
“Where Did You Get That Hat? to the tune of The Dambuster's March”. I’ve 
got a copy if you want (13 Meg)}

I’m surprised you can get it with a non UK IP address but fair doos if 
you can. To save you hassle why don’t you try get_iplayer it saves them 
as mp3/AAC. It is quick and runs under Linux. 
http://linuxcentre.net/getiplayer


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On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 21:34:13 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 14/01/2011 8:21 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> But on my PCs (all of them), it plays from those same links.
> 
> As you were!
> I liked “Hit me with your Battle Hymn” and the “House of the Rising 16”.
> {One of the best I can remember was Willy Russell singing “I Belong To
> Glasgow to the tune of Deutschland Uber Alles” (s5 e2). That was a good
> programme as it also had, “I Feel Pretty to the tune of Beethoven's 5th
> Symphony”. “The Hokey-Cokey to the tune of As Long As He Needs Me” and
> “Where Did You Get That Hat? to the tune of The Dambuster's March”. I’ve
> got a copy if you want (13 Meg)}

Yes, I particularly liked "Hit me with your Battle Hymn", but they all 
were outstanding. :-)  It's rare for that game not to be good, unless 
Jeremy's involved. ;-)

It's funny that you mention Beethoven's 5th, because we've started 
listening to ISIRTA again as well, and as you know, that's a regular 
feature of that show.

Which episode was "Where Did you Get That Hat" to "Dambuster's March"?  I 
probably have it already (I've got what I *think* is a complete 
collection of all the shows, but I've been wrong before <G>).

> I’m surprised you can get it with a non UK IP address but fair doos if
> you can. To save you hassle why don’t you try get_iplayer it saves them
> as mp3/AAC. It is quick and runs under Linux.
> http://linuxcentre.net/getiplayer

I'll give that a try, thanks!

Jim

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On 14/01/2011 10:16 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> Yes, I particularly liked "Hit me with your Battle Hymn", but they all
> were outstanding.:-)   It's rare for that game not to be good, unless
> Jeremy's involved.;-)
>

Oh! No! Jeremy's great.

> It's funny that you mention Beethoven's 5th, because we've started
> listening to ISIRTA again as well, and as you know, that's a regular
> feature of that show.

No I didn't. I listened to ISIRTA live when it was broadcast. And that 
was a long time ago.

>
> Which episode was "Where Did you Get That Hat" to "Dambuster's March"?  I
> probably have it already (I've got what I*think*  is a complete
> collection of all the shows, but I've been wrong before<G>).
>
S5 E2 Series 5 Episode 2
I've got a lot that were recorded and uploaded on The Goons Depository. 
If you have any missing I may have them. Unfortunatly the sound quality 
is a bit iffy on some of them.

s01e04 had Tim, Graeme, Bill Oddie and John Clease

Do you know Radio Archive? It is a good source.
http://radioarchive.cc/index.php

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On 14-1-2011 18:13, Darren New wrote:
> scott wrote:
>> Does that prove that there is nothing "running" our universe - ie it's
>> not some computer simulation inside another far more complex universe?
>
> It means that there isn't some "value" that exists before we measure it.
> It's possible that the super-universe is simulating ours, but if so,
> that super-universe also has purely random interactions in it.

And that would make the idea of that super universe superfluous. By 
applying occam's razor the answer is therefore: yes. Surprising isn't it?

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andrel wrote:
> And that would make the idea of that super universe superfluous. 

Not necessarily. Only in this one particular case. The super-universe might 
be controlling the probabilities, for example, or the constants like c or q.

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On 15-1-2011 0:20, Darren New wrote:
> andrel wrote:
>> And that would make the idea of that super universe superfluous.
>
> Not necessarily. Only in this one particular case. The super-universe
> might be controlling the probabilities, for example, or the constants
> like c or q.
>
Only if these constants are free variables. I don't know if they are.

Actually for many constants we don't know why they have a specific value 
(or even if they are constants at all). It may turn out that all of them 
can be computed without reference to any measurements or that there are 
a few free variables in this universe or perhaps that some depend on the 
time since the big bang. Only if there are true free variables among the 
constants you super universe could exist. Or actually if that is not the 
case we might still find another way that that super universe might 
exist. Sort of like finding a way that a god might still have an 
influence this universe.

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andrel wrote:
> Or actually if that is not the 
> case we might still find another way that that super universe might 
> exist. 

Sure. I'm sure none of us know enough cosmology to rule out whether this 
universe could be simulated.

Heck, *you* could be simulated and I and all the scientists you've ever 
heard of could be just part of the simulation.

 > Sort of like finding a way that a god might still have an
> influence this universe.

Yep. I'll still recommend Calculating God by Robert Sawyer. A wonderfully 
fun bit of fiction.

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On 15/01/2011 12:26 AM, Darren New wrote:
>
> Yep. I'll still recommend Calculating God by Robert Sawyer. A
> wonderfully fun bit of fiction.

I’ll give that a try since you recommend it. I take it you’ve read 
Simulacron 3 (Counterfeit World in the UK) by Daniel F. Galouye? Or The 
Tunnel Under the World by Frederik Pohl?

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     Stephen

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