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>> There are scenarios for which vector graphics is a clear win.
>> Photographs is definitely not one of them.
>
> how about being able to freely zoom in and out of a vectorization
> without image degration?
>
> not the case here, though...
Not the case ever, for photographs.
Now, if you wanted to represent the company logo, or some line art, or
some kind of chart, or any one of a bazillion other things, vector
graphics would be a big, big win.
>>> And if you want to create an SVG yourself, try eg. Inkscape.
>>
>> Yeah, I recently used this to draw some maps. It's infuriatingly
>> fiddly to use though.
>
> sometimes fiddling with the User Preferences dialog may save lots of
> effort.
Sometimes. I doubt it'll fix that issue where Inkscape just randomly
crashes sometimes and you loose all your work...
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>>>> This may, uh, *melt* your web browser. (I suggest you don't try "view
>>>> source" either...)
>>>
>>> Loaded just fine here in Chrome. Nice pic. :-)
>>
>> Oh, it *loaded*. I mean, it took 25 seconds to load, but it did do it
>> eventually. (Ate quite a bit of CPU power too...) Getting the page to
>> repaint was even slower.
>
> True. :-) "Loaded" to me, though, implies "didn't melt the browser". :-)
I see. So "it took forever and the whole program became somewhat
unstable" isn't the same as "melted"? ;-)
>> I wanted to see if I could use SVG to generate gradient backgrounds. But
>> unfortunately, it seems this is currently unsupported.
>
> I don't know that all browsers support SVG, do they?
Apparently everything except IE supports SVG now, and IE supports it if
you install the right plugin. It's just that you have to jump through
hoops if you want to *embed* SVG inside something else (like, say... a
web page?)
Similar story for MathML, actually. Except with fewer hoops to jump
through... (I mean, other than "writing the ****ing MathML in the first
place".)
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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> I'm not arguing that vector graphics isn't useful. I'm arguing that it's
> not useful *for photographs*.
Who ever suggested it to be used for photographs?
> But for a photograph... well, see for yourself. The image quality is
> nowhere near what the original photograph was, and that's *before* you
> try to change size...
I got the impression that the purpose of the SVG was to show an artistic
impression of the image (like if it was painted).
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On 21/09/2010 08:54 PM, Warp wrote:
> Orchid XP v8<voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
>> I'm not arguing that vector graphics isn't useful. I'm arguing that it's
>> not useful *for photographs*.
>
> Who ever suggested it to be used for photographs?
The page that linked to this image. They made it sound like "and even
better, there's plenty of programs to convert all your JPEG and PNG
images to SVG", like it's just another image format.
> I got the impression that the purpose of the SVG was to show an artistic
> impression of the image (like if it was painted).
If that's your goal, then sure, that could work. It probably requires
more effort than just an automatic trace program though.
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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> If that's your goal, then sure, that could work. It probably requires
> more effort than just an automatic trace program though.
There are Photoshop (and Gimp) filters that can do that to a photo.
Trivial to convert to SVG afterwards.
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:25:20 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Sometimes. I doubt it'll fix that issue where Inkscape just randomly
> crashes sometimes and you loose all your work...
I've never run into that, but if you have, save frequently....
Jim
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 15:17:13 -0300, nemesis wrote:
> Jim Henderson escreveu:
>> I don't know that all browsers support SVG, do they?
>
> IE doesn't as always. They are far less interested in a uniform
> cross-platform web and much more interested in things like allowing web
> pages with multimedia content being controlled directly by desktop
> controls in IE9 -- as long as your page is IE9-only, of course... how
> cool is that to click on a play button in the taskbar rather than in the
> video window in the page? :p
That's what I seemed to recall.
Jim
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:23:43 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> I'm not arguing that vector graphics isn't useful. I'm arguing that it's
> not useful *for photographs*.
Along the same lines, the palm of your hand does not make a good hammer,
either.
(I don't think anyone with half a brain ever argued that SVG was good for
photos)
Jim
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Jim Henderson escreveu:
> On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:25:20 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>
>> Sometimes. I doubt it'll fix that issue where Inkscape just randomly
>> crashes sometimes and you loose all your work...
>
> I've never run into that, but if you have, save frequently....
I heard open-source software works best with other open-source software,
mod-style... ;)
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nemesis escreveu:
> Jim Henderson escreveu:
>> On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:25:20 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>
>>> Sometimes. I doubt it'll fix that issue where Inkscape just randomly
>>> crashes sometimes and you loose all your work...
>>
>> I've never run into that, but if you have, save frequently....
>
> I heard open-source software works best with other open-source software,
> mod-style... ;)
mob-style... :p
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