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I just updated to Thunderbird 3.1.2
It's almost like installing a new version of MS Office. All the
functionality is the same, but all the buttons have moved around! Most
particularly, the Reply button is now in the message header rather than
the toolbar, which means the header is bigger now. In other words,
you've got the thread list at the top, the message at the bottom, and a
large useless grey header bar wasting space in the middle. Great.
Apparently there's an add-on to make the header smaller. In fact, it
seems that with this new release, almost everything of interest is a
separate add-on rather than a built-in feature.
It's not all bad though: I installed the UK English dictionary *again*,
but now, for the first time ever in history, it *actually works*. I can
now spell-check what I'm writing. Why the hell that never worked before
I will never know... but it works now. (It does the MS Word style red
underline that everybody copies now.) With this feature enabled, I am
rapidly discovering just how abysmal my spelling actually is...
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> I just updated to Thunderbird 3.1.2
>
> It's almost like installing a new version of MS Office. All the
> functionality is the same, but all the buttons have moved around! Most
> particularly, the Reply button is now in the message header rather than
> the toolbar, which means the header is bigger now. In other words,
> you've got the thread list at the top, the message at the bottom, and a
> large useless grey header bar wasting space in the middle. Great.
Less mouse movement to reach the "reply" button, I guess.
Personally, I like how they hid "Reply all".
>
> Apparently there's an add-on to make the header smaller. In fact, it
> seems that with this new release, almost everything of interest is a
> separate add-on rather than a built-in feature.
>
Your "everything of interest" may not be my "everything of interest".
Less bloatware.
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On 9/2/2010 7:43 AM, Francois Labreque wrote:
> Personally, I like how they hid "Reply all".
Reply-to-all was the worst feature in the entire history of e-mail.
Rarely is it ever relevant, not only that, but accidentally hitting it
can have negative consequences, and can clog the network if there were
lots of people on the send list. Also, If you habitually smack
reply-to-all, and reply with "Yes, I agree" or "Sign me up" etc.. .it's
not relative to me, and it annoys me to the nth degree. :)
It does have its place, though. Sometimes what you want to say is
relevant to all parties involved. Most of the time its not.
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~Mike
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On 02/09/2010 1:52 PM, Mike Raiford wrote:
> On 9/2/2010 7:43 AM, Francois Labreque wrote:
>
>> Personally, I like how they hid "Reply all".
>
> Reply-to-all was the worst feature in the entire history of e-mail.
> Rarely is it ever relevant, not only that, but accidentally hitting it
> can have negative consequences, and can clog the network if there were
> lots of people on the send list. Also, If you habitually smack
> reply-to-all, and reply with "Yes, I agree" or "Sign me up" etc.. .it's
> not relative to me, and it annoys me to the nth degree. :)
>
> It does have its place, though. Sometimes what you want to say is
> relevant to all parties involved. Most of the time its not.
>
newsreader use it is a PITA.
anyone have any recommendations for a free newsreader for Win7.
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Best Regards,
Stephen
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On 02/09/2010 04:29 PM, Stephen wrote:
> anyone have any recommendations for a free newsreader for Win7.
Thunderbird has a few annoying quirks - most especially, the broken
threading bug which has existed since Thunderbird was part of the
"Mozilla suite" yet still hasn't been fixed. (Or rather, Bugzilla claims
it *has* been fixed, and that to fix it you need to do a complex
sequence of configuration changes... which never actually work.)
The annoyance of the spell checker never working seems to be gone now,
so that's something. I also wish quoting was a little less
unpredictable, but hey.
Unfortunately, the only other newsreader for Windows that I know of is
Outlook Express. Obviously, this sucks like hell.
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>> It's almost like installing a new version of MS Office. All the
>> functionality is the same, but all the buttons have moved around! Most
>> particularly, the Reply button is now in the message header rather than
>> the toolbar
>
> Less mouse movement to reach the "reply" button, I guess.
Maybe. But it's going to take months for me to finally remember where to
look for it now.
> Personally, I like how they hid "Reply all".
I had removed that years ago anyway. I hadn't even noticed it's hidden
by default now.
>> Apparently there's an add-on to make the header smaller. In fact, it
>> seems that with this new release, almost everything of interest is a
>> separate add-on rather than a built-in feature.
>
> Your "everything of interest" may not be my "everything of interest".
> Less bloatware.
Being able to configure which columns show up isn't exactly an advanced
feature. It's a basic function of the software. But now instead of being
built-in, you have to install a special add-on to enable it again.
Bloatware? Now I have to install a dozen poorly-supported 3rd-party
add-ons just to get the functionality I should be getting out-of-the-box.
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Mike Raiford wrote:
> It does have its place, though. Sometimes what you want to say is
> relevant to all parties involved. Most of the time its not.
I find it depends to a great extent on whether it's personal communication
or intra-business communication. I almost never reply to only the sender
when I'm answering a question CC'ed to half a dozen work colleagues.
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Quoth the raven:
Need S'Mores!
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Invisible wrote:
>> Personally, I like how they hid "Reply all".
Does it have a functioning resend operation? Or just forward?
> Being able to configure which columns show up isn't exactly an advanced
> feature. It's a basic function of the software.
I'm honestly rather surprised it's not built into the GUI at a fundamental
level like scrolling is. :-)
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Quoth the raven:
Need S'Mores!
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On 2-9-2010 14:43, Francois Labreque wrote:
>> I just updated to Thunderbird 3.1.2
>>
>> It's almost like installing a new version of MS Office. All the
>> functionality is the same, but all the buttons have moved around! Most
>> particularly, the Reply button is now in the message header rather than
>> the toolbar, which means the header is bigger now. In other words,
>> you've got the thread list at the top, the message at the bottom, and a
>> large useless grey header bar wasting space in the middle. Great.
>
> Less mouse movement to reach the "reply" button, I guess.
>
> Personally, I like how they hid "Reply all".
Does anybody know where the 'next' message button has gone to?
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On 02/09/2010 4:54 PM, Invisible wrote:
>
> Thunderbird has a few annoying quirks - most especially, the broken
> threading bug which has existed since Thunderbird was part of the
> "Mozilla suite" yet still hasn't been fixed. (Or rather, Bugzilla claims
> it *has* been fixed, and that to fix it you need to do a complex
> sequence of configuration changes... which never actually work.)
>
For me it works sometimes in some groups but not in my email accounts.
> The annoyance of the spell checker never working seems to be gone now,
> so that's something. I also wish quoting was a little less
> unpredictable, but hey.
>
I've not noticed any problems with "quoting"
> Unfortunately, the only other newsreader for Windows that I know of is
> Outlook Express. Obviously, this sucks like hell.
I used to use Free Agent but it is no longer free. I might have to pay
for one (OMG)
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Stephen
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