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On 6/22/2010 7:50 AM, Invisible wrote:
> Sometimes I think we should just nuke the whole English language and
> design something that actually ****ing works.
>
> Unfortunately, this is impossible.
Didn't they try that with Esperanto?
Oh, yeah ... you did say impossible. Improbable is probably more
accurate. ;)
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~Mike
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>> I'm still trying to think of any software that's capable of producing
>> such files. (And, therefore, where the hell this person even found
>> those names from...)
>
> Excel?
Excel can *import* text files with all sorts of strange delimiters.
However, it seems to be unable to *create* anything except CSV or
tab-delimited; there's no option for pipe-delimited.
>> There's no possibility of that. I'm personally going there anyway, so...
>
> So she was asking if she should bring it so you can sign it there, or
> whether you're going home first. Seems easy.
Given that she already knows that I'm coming home, the answer seems
pretty self-evident.
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>> So each time you analyse a set of samples, there is a linear
>> conversion, but it's different each time.
>
> Only if the cross sectional area or length of the sample is different.
>
> You really need to read up on the physical properties of materials.
Well, sure. I mean, it's not like the resistence of a diode varies with
voltage.
Oh, wait, actually that's exactly what it does. :-P
So what makes you so certain that passing a current through a sample
can't cause some kind of chemical reaction that affects its electrical
characteristics, given that we don't even know what the hell this
machine is or what it does?
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On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:15:30 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Excel can *import* text files with all sorts of strange delimiters.
> However, it seems to be unable to *create* anything except CSV or
> tab-delimited; there's no option for pipe-delimited.
Fortunately, that's pretty easy to work around with a scripting
language. Export tab delimited and then use something like awk to
replcae the tabs with pipes = job done.
Jim
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>> Excel can *import* text files with all sorts of strange delimiters.
>> However, it seems to be unable to *create* anything except CSV or
>> tab-delimited; there's no option for pipe-delimited.
>
> Fortunately, that's pretty easy to work around with a scripting
> language. Export tab delimited and then use something like awk to
> replcae the tabs with pipes = job done.
Oh, sure, I'm not disputing that. I'm just wondering where the hell some
random user who can barely operate Notepad has heard of pipe-delimited
files from...
--
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:22:10 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> Excel can *import* text files with all sorts of strange delimiters.
>>> However, it seems to be unable to *create* anything except CSV or
>>> tab-delimited; there's no option for pipe-delimited.
>>
>> Fortunately, that's pretty easy to work around with a scripting
>> language. Export tab delimited and then use something like awk to
>> replcae the tabs with pipes = job done.
>
> Oh, sure, I'm not disputing that. I'm just wondering where the hell some
> random user who can barely operate Notepad has heard of pipe-delimited
> files from...
Probably a vendor that they interact with who said "we need/will provide
files in this format".
I interact with a company that delivers exams and a company that tracks
exam results and certifications; the typical user of the systems they
provide is non-technical, and they provide data in that type of format -
it's actually fairly widely used because "|" isn't often part of actual
data.
The perhaps surprising thing is that Excel and oocalc both don't have an
option built in for exporting files in that format, given that they are
so widely used.
Jim
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Am 22.06.2010 16:46, schrieb Darren New:
> If you think a question is stupid, it's because you already know
> the answer. So give it to them. :-)
Nice point ;-)
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>> Oh, sure, I'm not disputing that. I'm just wondering where the hell some
>> random user who can barely operate Notepad has heard of pipe-delimited
>> files from...
>
> Probably a vendor that they interact with who said "we need/will provide
> files in this format".
I got the impression that she created one of these files by mistake, and
then whoever else she was interacting with rewrote the spec to match.
Which still leaves the question "how the hell did you manage to do this
in the first place?" Oh well.
> The perhaps surprising thing is that Excel and oocalc both don't have an
> option built in for exporting files in that format, given that they are
> so widely used.
Yeah, I had assumed it would be there...
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On 22/06/2010 6:19 PM, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> So each time you analyse a set of samples, there is a linear
>>> conversion, but it's different each time.
>>
>> Only if the cross sectional area or length of the sample is different.
>>
>> You really need to read up on the physical properties of materials.
>
> Well, sure. I mean, it's not like the resistence of a diode varies with
> voltage.
>
> Oh, wait, actually that's exactly what it does. :-P
>
> So what makes you so certain that passing a current through a sample
> can't cause some kind of chemical reaction that affects its electrical
> characteristics, given that we don't even know what the hell this
> machine is or what it does?
>
For a start you know what units it measures and you can research how to
measure “admittance”.
Of course passing a current through a material affects its properties.
Even a resistor will change its resistance as you pass a current through
it and it heats up. The trick is to use as small a current or voltage as
will work and let the material reach its working temperature.
Electronics is not all zeroes and ones, you have to think physical
properties as well.
As for a material having a chemical reaction: If it were to have a
reaction that changed its properties adversely then that is the wrong
way to test it. Someone who understands the problem will come up with a
solution.
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Best Regards,
Stephen
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On 22/06/2010 7:07 PM, clipka wrote:
> Am 22.06.2010 16:46, schrieb Darren New:
>
>> If you think a question is stupid, it's because you already know
>> the answer. So give it to them. :-)
>
> Nice point ;-)
There are no stupid questions only stupid answers.
Or as I often say, ask a stupid person, get a stupid answer.
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Best Regards,
Stephen
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