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From: Patrick Elliott
Subject: Re: Bl**dy election (part 2)
Date: 30 Apr 2010 21:42:41
Message: <4bdb8711$1@news.povray.org>
On 4/30/2010 11:23 AM, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> scott wrote:
>>> Anybody got any better suggestions?
>>
>> Emigrate.
>
> ROFL
>
Just don't do so to Arizona. They would hear your English accent and 
immediately have you arrested, then probably deported to Mexico (I don't 
credit these idiots imagining that anyone in the country illegally 
*might* come from some place other than Mexico...). lol

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Bl**dy election (part 2)
Date: 30 Apr 2010 21:54:16
Message: <4bdb89c8$1@news.povray.org>
Patrick Elliott wrote:
> They would hear your English accent and 
> immediately have you arrested, then probably deported to Mexico 

That's about right, considering they're talking about deporting actual US 
citizens born of illegal immigrants.  I have to wonder where they think 
they'd deport them to.

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From: Fredrik Eriksson
Subject: Re: Bl**dy election (part 2)
Date: 30 Apr 2010 21:58:50
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On Sat, 01 May 2010 03:42:34 +0200, Patrick Elliott <sel### [at] npgcablecom>  
wrote:
> (I don't credit these idiots imagining that anyone in the country  
> illegally *might* come from some place other than Mexico...). lol

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Bl**dy election (part 2)
Date: 1 May 2010 02:13:10
Message: <4bdbc676@news.povray.org>
Patrick Elliott <sel### [at] npgcablecom> wrote:
> Just don't do so to Arizona. They would hear your English accent and 
> immediately have you arrested, then probably deported to Mexico (I don't 
> credit these idiots imagining that anyone in the country illegally 
> *might* come from some place other than Mexico...). lol

  I have heard some stories how, especially nowadays, people at customs in
the US can sometimes be really prickly with people who are trying to get
into the country, even tourists.

  A married couple, friends of mine, were trying to visit the US (they had
done so many times before). He had dual US/Finnish citizenship because of
his parents, and they were going to visit his family. His wife had only
Finnish citizenship.

  I didn't know that Finns were such a huge illegal immigration problem in
the US (</sarcasm>) because the person at customs happened to be a real
a**hole. There was some minor problem with her papers (I don't remember
if it was the visa or the passport or something), and they spent literally
*hours* in customs at the airport trying to solve the problem. The husband
would have had no problem entering (being a citizen and all), but his wife
couldn't.

  After many hours the shift of this customs person ended and a new person
came in his stead. He checked the papers a few seconds and cleared them to
enter the country.

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Bl**dy election (part 2)
Date: 1 May 2010 09:33:22
Message: <4bdc2da2$1@news.povray.org>
On 30/04/2010 10:03 PM, John VanSickle wrote:
> What?  Nobody's standing for the Monster Raving Loony Party?

When they get to Westminster (John’s constituency) they’re all Raving 
Loonies.

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Bl**dy election (part 2)
Date: 1 May 2010 09:37:02
Message: <4bdc2e7e$1@news.povray.org>
On 30/04/2010 12:28 PM, Doctor John wrote:
> Anybody got any better suggestions?

Guy Fawkes ;-)

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Bl**dy election (part 2)
Date: 1 May 2010 10:35:34
Message: <4bdc3c36$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
>> Anybody got any better suggestions?
> 
> Emigrate.

Most people seem to go with "denigrate"...

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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: Bl**dy election (part 2)
Date: 1 May 2010 11:30:20
Message: <4bdc490c@news.povray.org>
Patrick Elliott wrote:
> On 4/30/2010 11:23 AM, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
>> scott wrote:
>>>> Anybody got any better suggestions?
>>>
>>> Emigrate.
>>
>> ROFL
>>
> Just don't do so to Arizona. They would hear your English accent and 
> immediately have you arrested, then probably deported to Mexico (I don't 
> credit these idiots imagining that anyone in the country illegally 
> *might* come from some place other than Mexico...). lol

I'm not quite ready to chalk up the Arizona laws to pure racism.

The notion that any nation must permit any person to immigrate is simply 
nuts, and does not appear to be the operating principle of any nation on 
earth.  Mexico's immigration laws, in particular, make even the new 
Arizona law seem quite relaxed in comparison.  In light of this, I'd say 
that the Mexican government "doth protest too much" on the issue of the 
new Arizona law.

Regards,
John


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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: Bl**dy election (part 2)
Date: 1 May 2010 11:48:40
Message: <4bdc4d58$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> Patrick Elliott wrote:
>> They would hear your English accent and immediately have you arrested, 
>> then probably deported to Mexico 
> 
> That's about right, considering they're talking about deporting actual 
> US citizens born of illegal immigrants.  I have to wonder where they 
> think they'd deport them to.

If a man is the sole source of support for his family, and he commits a 
crime punishable by prison, the fact that he has a family to support may 
be taken into account in his sentencing, but the court may lawfully 
sentence to prison anyway.  That his family is consequently deprived of 
their support is regarded as the fault of that man, and not that of the 
court or the law.

The same principle applies here to the immigration law.  If you don't 
want your children to suffer the indirect consequences of your 
lawbreaking, then don't break the law.

Believe it or not, there is no basic right to remain in the country.  If 
you are here in violation of our laws, you must go.  The fact that your 
children are lawfully here does not alter this.  You have no lawful 
recourse but to leave.

You can take your kids with you or you can leave them behind.  Sure, it 
is not their fault that you broke the law, but if that didn't stop you 
from breaking the law, why should it stop us from enforcing it?

Regards,
John


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Bl**dy election (part 2)
Date: 1 May 2010 12:36:50
Message: <4bdc58a2@news.povray.org>
On Sat, 01 May 2010 11:48:15 -0400, John VanSickle wrote:

> You can take your kids with you or you can leave them behind.  Sure, it
> is not their fault that you broke the law, but if that didn't stop you
> from breaking the law, why should it stop us from enforcing it?

I don't think that this is what Darren was saying, but rather that the 
Arizona law opens the potential for someone who *is* a legal citizen but 
isn't carrying their papers on them to be deported.  But the idea behind 
deporting someone to their country of origin is not valid when their 
country of origin *is* in fact the US.

Jim


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