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From: Invisible
Subject: Nostalga concentrate
Date: 29 Mar 2010 07:51:44
Message: <4bb09450@news.povray.org>
Here's an interesting fact: If you take the music of a specific era, 
sort through it, throw away all the junk and keep only the very best of 
the music, the end result is an impressive pile of music. Listen to that 
and you walk away with the impression that "back then, they made REAL 
music!"

Or at least, that's what I've been doing since I unwrapped about 25 
hours' worth of 1950s-eta rock & roll music yesterday. ;-)


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Nostalga concentrate
Date: 29 Mar 2010 11:58:16
Message: <4bb0ce18$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Here's an interesting fact:

90% of everything is crap. That said, if you keep only 1%, you're doing well.

Ever listen to a classical music radio station? Most of it is boring and 
lame. It's only the good music that lasts 100s' of years.

I'm wondering what the golden age of rap is going to sound like.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Yes, we're traveling together,
   but to different destinations.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Nostalga concentrate
Date: 29 Mar 2010 12:25:03
Message: <4bb0d45f$1@news.povray.org>
On 29/03/2010 4:58 PM, Darren New wrote:

> I'm wondering what the golden age of rap is going to sound like.
>

The same as it does today cRAP!

-- 

Best Regards,
	Stephen


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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: Nostalga concentrate
Date: 29 Mar 2010 14:20:14
Message: <4bb0ef5e$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Here's an interesting fact: If you take the music of a specific era, 
> sort through it, throw away all the junk and keep only the very best of 
> the music, the end result is an impressive pile of music. Listen to that 
> and you walk away with the impression that "back then, they made REAL 
> music!"
> 
> Or at least, that's what I've been doing since I unwrapped about 25 
> hours' worth of 1950s-eta rock & roll music yesterday. ;-)

Although some genres produce nothing but junk, or have produced nothing 
new since the first couple of albums by the first couple of artists.

The heavy metal genre, for instance, has had only a small handful of 
bands that can be regarded as anything like first rate, and they all 
came out in the very earliest days of metal.  Since then, it has all 
been derivative noise.  The same could easily be claimed for rap/hip-hop 
and country-western.

Regards,
John


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Nostalga concentrate
Date: 29 Mar 2010 18:31:36
Message: <4bb12a48@news.povray.org>
John VanSickle wrote:
> The heavy metal genre,

An audio engineer I worked with said his group had once done spectral 
analysis on different kinds of music, and heavy metal was indistinguishable 
from white noise.  "So when Mom tells you it sounds like noise, she's right!"

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Yes, we're traveling together,
   but to different destinations.


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Nostalga concentrate
Date: 29 Mar 2010 18:45:00
Message: <web.4bb12d3f268c7cb4f48316a30@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Here's an interesting fact: If you take the music of a specific era,
> sort through it, throw away all the junk and keep only the very best of
> the music, the end result is an impressive pile of music. Listen to that
> and you walk away with the impression that "back then, they made REAL
> music!"
>
> Or at least, that's what I've been doing since I unwrapped about 25
> hours' worth of 1950s-eta rock & roll music yesterday. ;-)

1% of 1950`s best still sounds awful when compared to 1% of 1790`s best. ;)


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Nostalga concentrate
Date: 29 Mar 2010 20:43:01
Message: <4bb14915$1@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> 1% of 1950`s best still sounds awful when compared to 1% of 1790`s best. ;)

I remember reading a book wherein the protagonist was chatting and said 
something along the lines of "I never bother to read a book that isn't at 
least 100 years old and still popular."   The person he's talking to says 
"doesn't that rather limit your options?"  The protagonist says "Not really."

Several chapters later, you realize the protagonist is a vampire.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Yes, we're traveling together,
   but to different destinations.


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Nostalga concentrate
Date: 29 Mar 2010 23:10:01
Message: <web.4bb16b0b268c7cb4b7ebb4bf0@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> nemesis wrote:
> > 1% of 1950`s best still sounds awful when compared to 1% of 1790`s best. ;)
>
> I remember reading a book wherein the protagonist was chatting and said
> something along the lines of "I never bother to read a book that isn't at
> least 100 years old and still popular."   The person he's talking to says
> "doesn't that rather limit your options?"  The protagonist says "Not really."
>
> Several chapters later, you realize the protagonist is a vampire.

I'm no vampire. :)

Still, I think like this:  do I know some given work of art already?  If not, it
doesn't matter if it's 5000 years old:  it's completely new to me.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Nostalga concentrate
Date: 30 Mar 2010 01:34:56
Message: <4bb18d80$1@news.povray.org>
On 29/03/2010 11:44 PM, nemesis wrote:
> Invisible<voi### [at] devnull>  wrote:
>> Here's an interesting fact: If you take the music of a specific era,
>> sort through it, throw away all the junk and keep only the very best of
>> the music, the end result is an impressive pile of music. Listen to that
>> and you walk away with the impression that "back then, they made REAL
>> music!"
>>
>> Or at least, that's what I've been doing since I unwrapped about 25
>> hours' worth of 1950s-eta rock&  roll music yesterday. ;-)
>
> 1% of 1950`s best still sounds awful when compared to 1% of 1790`s best. ;)
>

True :-D

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Best Regards,
	Stephen


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Nostalga concentrate
Date: 30 Mar 2010 04:23:08
Message: <4bb1b4ec@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:

> 90% of everything is crap.

I don't think that's necessarily true.

Take YouTube. 99.9998% of YouTube is crap, presumably because *anybody* 
can post *anything*. You don't get to release a recording with a major 
record label unless you're minimally competant.

> That said, if you keep only 1%, you're doing well.

Indeed. I would imagine all the music ever recorded in the 1950s numbers 
in the hundred billions, and I've got, like, 30 tracks here.

> Ever listen to a classical music radio station? Most of it is boring and 
> lame. It's only the good music that lasts 100s' of years.

Most classical music sounds dull and boring to me. Only a select few 
pieces are worth hearing. Every year my mum forces me to listen to the 
New Year's Day concert in Vienna. *yawn*

It's the same with organ music. Once you get over the initial "this is a 
pipe organ", most of it is unspeakably dull. But every now and then, the 
occasional piece comes along which sounds awesome all the way through.

> I'm wondering what the golden age of rap is going to sound like.

Bahahaha!

I'm wondering what 21st century music will still be popular in 50 years' 
time. I honestly can't think of any good music I've heard recently 
that's new.


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