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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Operation downfall
Date: 29 Nov 2009 11:07:03
Message: <4b129c27@news.povray.org>
andrel wrote:
> D*mn is there a way to phrase this in an unambiguous way? 

"Afraid of meeting foreigners, not afraid of being a foreigner." :-)

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Operation downfall
Date: 29 Nov 2009 11:09:08
Message: <4b129ca4$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> People with an accent that's difficult to understand, basically. 

Move to a country that's teeming with people with bad accents, and everyone 
will accommodate you. Move to someplace where everyone speaks the same 
foreign language and I'm not so sure.

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Operation downfall
Date: 29 Nov 2009 11:13:48
Message: <4b129dbc$1@news.povray.org>
andrel wrote:
> Think of it this way: if you have to move you might not want to leave 
> that place either after a few months or years.

I grew up in an area where about 80% of the population never leaves the city 
they were born in. And by "never leaves" I don't mean "lives somewhere else" 
but literally "never leaves". They never go more than about 100 miles from 
where they live.

Some people get out and go far away. But I know many people who grew up, got 
married, and moved to live so close they were still in the same central 
office as their parents' house.

And yes, it is quite possible to move away from a place like that and like a 
different place. But not for everyone.

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Operation downfall
Date: 29 Nov 2009 11:16:09
Message: <4b129e49$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:
> by not wanting to try to get around London on a daily basis.

The actual nice thing about cities is they tend to be very easy to get 
around. I've never vacationed in a city that I've taken an automobile. The 
paris and london subways (as well as a few in the USA) are really all you 
need, if you're willing to walk two or three blocks or hop an occasional 
taxi cab to go too far towards the edge.

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Operation downfall
Date: 29 Nov 2009 11:53:36
Message: <4b12a710$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:

> I grew up in an area where about 80% of the population never leaves the 
> city they were born in. And by "never leaves" I don't mean "lives 
> somewhere else" but literally "never leaves". They never go more than 
> about 100 miles from where they live.

I note with some amusement that in my country, "100 miles" is almost 
from one coast to the other. Almost. ;-)

Still, the USA is much, much bigger. Hell, even Switzerland is bigger 
than the UK!

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Operation downfall
Date: 29 Nov 2009 11:55:47
Message: <4b12a793$1@news.povray.org>
> The actual nice thing about cities is they tend to be very easy to get 
> around. I've never vacationed in a city that I've taken an automobile. 
> The paris and london subways (as well as a few in the USA) are really 
> all you need, if you're willing to walk two or three blocks or hop an 
> occasional taxi cab to go too far towards the edge.

I would suggest that you'd be insane to try to travel around central 
London by car. It's not that public transport is superb - it isn't - 
it's more that the roads are an insane nightmare. (Presumably because 
the road network was never really designed, it just happened. Oh, and 
the vast traffic volume.)

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Operation downfall
Date: 29 Nov 2009 12:01:03
Message: <4b12a8cf$1@news.povray.org>
>> I don't know of anybody who moved just to get a job.
> 
> It all depends on the sort of job. If you are looking for the kind of 
> job that is needed in quantities of about 10 per 1000 people, you can 
> find a job nearby. A sysop, I'm guessing, is about 1 in 10000, so that 
> is reachable, but that is not really the sort of job you are looking 
> for. The sort of job that you are looking for is less than 1 in 100000 
> and mostly in bigger companies and universities. Hence: I don't think 
> you are going to find that job in MK.

So it seems we're agreed on one thing: I need to look for a different 
type of job.

(I guess really it was silly to think I could be a programmer in the 
first place; the most popular programming language in the world is C, 
the one language I'm very bad at.)

>> I'd actually *like* to leave my mother. She drives me crazy. It's the 
>> city of MK that I enjoy and don't particularly want to leave.
> 
> Think of it this way: if you have to move you might not want to leave 
> that place either after a few months or years.

It's possible. But I've yet to see a city besides MK that isn't stricken 
with a tangled road network that can't handle the traffic volume, and 
buildings that are old and crumbling. Maybe there is such a place, but I 
haven't found it yet.

>> Heh. One more thing to add to the list of problems I'm running out of 
>> time to solve. :-/
> 
> I assumed you were aware of that.

Well, yeah, it's not exactly news that I need a new job.

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Operation downfall
Date: 29 Nov 2009 12:42:00
Message: <4b12b268$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> I would suggest that you'd be insane to try to travel around central 
> London by car. It's not that public transport is superb - it isn't - 

The subway takes you where you need to go. I've been all over london.

> it's more that the roads are an insane nightmare.

This is true in most cities that were laid out before the invention of 
automobiles, including most east-coast USA cities. Except we generally have 
crappy public transit too, compared to europe.

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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Operation downfall
Date: 29 Nov 2009 15:10:44
Message: <4B12D543.60509@hotmail.com>
On 29-11-2009 17:07, Darren New wrote:
> andrel wrote:
>> D*mn is there a way to phrase this in an unambiguous way? 
> 
> "Afraid of meeting foreigners, not afraid of being a foreigner." :-)
> 
You didn't think of mirrors, did you?


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Operation downfall
Date: 29 Nov 2009 15:50:15
Message: <4b12de87$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:

> I note with some amusement that in my country, "100 miles" is almost 
> from one coast to the other. Almost. ;-)
> 

LOL
I note with some amusement that in my country, "50 miles" *is* from one 
coast to the other. :P
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	Stephen


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