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At the Forefront: New Directions on Cancer and HIV
http://www.scripps.edu/philanthropy/forefront/2009_10.html?tr=y&auid=5454050
http://www.scripps.edu/philanthropy/landing/newsletter/2009_10_focuson.html?origin=0910atf
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I tried it on a workplace laptop, once which I have to put into standby mode
multiple times a day. I found that a WCG session was just outright dead when I
re-opened the laptop. I couldn't get it to resume, I think I had to outright
cancel the session. Eventually I gave up. This was about 2 years ago. Any
ideas?
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gregjohn wrote:
> I tried it on a workplace laptop, once which I have to put into standby mode
> multiple times a day. I found that a WCG session was just outright dead when I
> re-opened the laptop. I couldn't get it to resume, I think I had to outright
> cancel the session. Eventually I gave up. This was about 2 years ago. Any
> ideas?
2 Years ago WCG used another client called 'United Devices' now use
BOINC, it is much better and it has more configuration possibilities
when you're installing it, you can even run in on the background as a
service. The WCG have now a forum that has a support section with many
useful threads and active moderators and other volunteer users that
will help you within a few hours of posting. Also now we have badges,
given according to the CPU/GPU time you have donated to research, just
make sure you login with your old account info.
You can download it at WCG (www.worldcommunitygrid.org) or at Berkeley
University (boinc.berkeley.edu).
I recommend you to give it another try, by default you'll only be
donating 60% of every CPU core (I don't know the percentage for GPUs)
you can change this later if you want, you have full control over that
and other features, I personally set it at 99% to assure responsivity,
if you have a Quad Core you can set it at 100%.
Good luck and thank you for caring and doing something about it.
Regards.
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Saul Luizaga schrieb:
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> You can download it at WCG (www.worldcommunitygrid.org) or at Berkeley
> University (boinc.berkeley.edu).
What I have trouble with is the question, "who benefits?" - I don't see
this explicitly answered at a prominent place, which to me raises the
question why that is so.
Who qualifies to use the WCG? Who decides who qualifies? Are the
scientific results published without a fee, or will I have to pay to see
the research results my computer has helped generating?
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"clipka" <ano### [at] anonymous org> wrote in message
news:4af9ef98@news.povray.org...
> Saul Luizaga schrieb:
> >
> > You can download it at WCG (www.worldcommunitygrid.org) or at Berkeley
> > University (boinc.berkeley.edu).
>
> What I have trouble with is the question, "who benefits?"
What do you mean who benefits? All those poor drug companies who cannot make
ends meet to invest on computer hardware benefit. Computer hardware
manufacturers, power companies, tenure track scientists benefit. Isn't that
enough to make you (and your computer) feel warm and fuzzy inside?
I guess you could say that I am past the age of blissful idealism.
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On 11/10/09 19:43, somebody wrote:
>> What I have trouble with is the question, "who benefits?"
>
> What do you mean who benefits? All those poor drug companies who cannot make
> ends meet to invest on computer hardware benefit. Computer hardware
> manufacturers, power companies, tenure track scientists benefit. Isn't that
> enough to make you (and your computer) feel warm and fuzzy inside?
Actually, his concerns are warranted. I think his main concern is: Will
any results be made available for free (both in terms of price and in
terms of restrictions)? If not, he doesn't wish to contribute.
I'd volunteer for a project only if any of the following hold:
1. I benefit directly.
2. Others benefit but don't prevent yet others from benefit.
Most tenure track professors (and the ones who already have tenure)
publish in "closed" journals - so almost everyone on this planet won't
have access to their findings unless they pay a (hefty) fee.
If a pharmaceutical company makes a better drug using this data, but
does not allow the actual findings of this collaboration that allowed
for that drug to be made public, why should I contribute to it? It may
well become a tool to deprive people of medication.
(I haven't actually looked at the site myself to see if these questions
are answered - and I vaguely recall you posted something like this a
while ago and it probably was addressed then).
--
Q: What do you call a half-dozen Indians with Asian flu?
A: Six sick Sikhs (sic).
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clipka wrote:
> Saul Luizaga schrieb:
>>
>> You can download it at WCG (www.worldcommunitygrid.org) or at
>> Berkeley University (boinc.berkeley.edu).
>
> What I have trouble with is the question, "who benefits?" - I don't see
> this explicitly answered at a prominent place, which to me raises the
> question why that is so.
>
> Who qualifies to use the WCG? Who decides who qualifies? Are the
> scientific results published without a fee, or will I have to pay to see
> the research results my computer has helped generating?
You have trouble with everything I write, you always try to polemicize
everything I post. If you're so interested in this why don't you do what
some have done here and go to the site and find out.
You can't find out? Are you a noob web surfer? Learn to dig in the sites
a little, that's the way the WWW is for now, you have to do a little
"homework" to get your "candy".
Anyways, the resulting database with the names of the proteins and the
results of the folding will be public and free, it is already for what
can be considered usuful. "World Community Grid has a network of
dedicated partners, each bringing their special expertise and contribution."
Is all there you just want me to convince you of joining with a long and
detailed explanation, well I won't if you are an adult and have a
conscience you would want at least know about it and get the information
on your own.
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somebody wrote:
> I guess you could say that I am past the age of blissful idealism.
To think in this selfish and pessimistic way I'd say you have lost a lot
more than the blissful idealism.
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Neeum Zawan wrote:
> On 11/10/09 19:43, somebody wrote:
> 1. I benefit directly.
> 2. Others benefit but don't prevent yet others from benefit.
>
> Most tenure track professors (and the ones who already have tenure)
> publish in "closed" journals - so almost everyone on this planet won't
> have access to their findings unless they pay a (hefty) fee.
>
> If a pharmaceutical company makes a better drug using this data, but
> does not allow the actual findings of this collaboration that allowed
> for that drug to be made public, why should I contribute to it? It may
> well become a tool to deprive people of medication.
>
> (I haven't actually looked at the site myself to see if these
> questions are answered - and I vaguely recall you posted something like
> this a while ago and it probably was addressed then).
Having a AIDS vaccine would be quite direct benefit IMO. Protein folding
research is key to many important diseases including Cancer. All
projects are different approaches to protein folding in general,
including the 'Clean Energy Project'.
IBM is giving all, the website, support, the equipment, the software
(for the projects to run on BOINC), the administration, everything, so
you can read more WHY at IBM's site.
The World Community Grid has more than 400 Partners world wide each
helping in some special way to the WCG, you think that IBM and all these
Partners wanna make something dumb and screw everyone over? by making
all private when the research was public? I certainly think not.
Check the site it a grid for the good of Humanity, is all that it is, it
explains nicely everything you want to know and then there is a Forum,
there, you can get a sea of info about WCG. Now you can read it in
different languages.
Check YouTube, example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyJ1JaIIhbU,
there are many videos made by people talking about WHY they're doing it.
Computers are a wonderful tool, can calculate and do a lot of
interesting stuff but for the first time we, as a World, are making them
work to accelerate dramatically health research for our benefit and of
course share the knowledge among us through the Internet. If you think
about it, the Humanity greatest inventions, computers and the Internet,
working finally as 1 developing a huge potential for a greater good:
save Humanity from diseases that could wipe us if they get out of
control, finally we're making as much as we can, with our brains and
hearts, to save ourselves. And the beautiful part is that everyone can
help as a scientist without having to be one.
http://boincstats.com/
Cheers.
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Saul Luizaga <sau### [at] netscapenet> wrote:
> somebody wrote:
> > I guess you could say that I am past the age of blissful idealism.
>
> To think in this selfish and pessimistic way I'd say you have lost a lot
> more than the blissful idealism.
That's why I'm not an atheist: they are cranky, bored, bickering people filling
in their spiritual needs with lots of empty argumentations and complaints in web
forums. ;)
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