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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Something I hate about web forums
Date: 8 Nov 2009 15:42:56
Message: <4af72d50$1@news.povray.org>
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:18:46 +0100, clipka wrote:

> Well, I think Invisible can still claim to be our chief blogger

Sure, but Warp used to give Invis a lot of grief for using these groups 
for blogging - and even suggested Invis create a blog (which he did).  
Warp doesn't (to my knowledge) have one, but continues to post blog-like 
entries here.

I couldn't resist poking a little fun at him for that. ;-)

Jim


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Something I hate about web forums
Date: 9 Nov 2009 14:27:26
Message: <4af86d1e@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:18:46 +0100, clipka wrote:

> > Well, I think Invisible can still claim to be our chief blogger

> Sure, but Warp used to give Invis a lot of grief for using these groups 
> for blogging - and even suggested Invis create a blog (which he did).  
> Warp doesn't (to my knowledge) have one, but continues to post blog-like 
> entries here.

> I couldn't resist poking a little fun at him for that. ;-)

  While I don't deny the "bloginess" of my post, I still think that there
are posts which are more "bloggish" than others. It's largely related to
how much the post is about your personal life vs. how much it is about hobbies
which may probably be shared by the community here. Or how much it's about
expressing an opinion vs. how much it's about just a piece of text more akin
to a diary entry.

  For example, if you make a post along the lines of "hey, check this cool
website I found", that's something which many people here might find
interesting because we can assume that most people here surf the internet
for cool websites as somewhat of a hobby of them. Likewise if you post an
opinion like "I hate websites that do thing X", it might start wandering
more towards "bloggishness", but could still start an interesting discussion
about the subject.

  Letting some steam off in a friendly environment is also ok (as long as
you don't do it too often).

  However, if you make a post along the lines of "so I was at work today and
saw a couple of women talking about blaa blaa blaa (continue for about 200
lines)", *that's* a blog post if any. More like a personal diary entry.

  If it's an interesting anecdote, then there's nothing wrong about it.
However, if it's just a personal diary entry which may be just midly
interesting to perhaps a few people, and you keep making such posts
regularly (or if I put it in harsher terms, if you start being outright
boring with your regular lengthy posts), then that's when, in my opinion,
you are going over the line.

  Just my opinion.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Something I hate about web forums
Date: 9 Nov 2009 14:55:20
Message: <4af873a8$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:27:26 -0500, Warp wrote:

>   If it's an interesting anecdote, then there's nothing wrong about it.
> However, if it's just a personal diary entry which may be just midly
> interesting to perhaps a few people, and you keep making such posts
> regularly (or if I put it in harsher terms, if you start being outright
> boring with your regular lengthy posts), then that's when, in my
> opinion, you are going over the line.

And as you say, that's your opinion.  Personally, I find Andy's posts 
generally to be interesting, and it seems I'm not alone - since others 
reply to them here as well.

But I couldn't resist the opportunity to tweak your nose over it - 
there's a certain irony when one complains about someone making 'bloggy' 
posts and then making one themselves.... ;-)

Jim


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Something I hate about web forums
Date: 9 Nov 2009 16:16:25
Message: <4af886a9@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> But I couldn't resist the opportunity to tweak your nose over it - 
> there's a certain irony when one complains about someone making 'bloggy' 
> posts and then making one themselves.... ;-)

  My point was that I don't think I acted against my own advice to him.
Maybe I'm being a bit presumptuous, but that's my honest view.

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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Something I hate about web forums
Date: 9 Nov 2009 19:28:18
Message: <4af8b3a2$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:16:25 -0500, Warp wrote:

> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> But I couldn't resist the opportunity to tweak your nose over it -
>> there's a certain irony when one complains about someone making
>> 'bloggy' posts and then making one themselves.... ;-)
> 
>   My point was that I don't think I acted against my own advice to him.
> Maybe I'm being a bit presumptuous, but that's my honest view.

Well of course you would think that, otherwise you wouldn't have made the 
post in the first place.  But your view isn't necessarily the only view 
that applies - and for those of us with a different view, the irony is 
pretty funny. :-)

Jim


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Something I hate about web forums
Date: 15 Nov 2009 11:48:01
Message: <4b0030c1@news.povray.org>
Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> Chambers <Ben### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> > If you have a blog indexed by Google, posting it there will usually get 
> > the word out for other people looking for a fix.  I was surprised by how 
> > often my own blog posts came up when searching for related subjects 
> > (back when I had one).

>   I don't have a "blog" per se, but making a html page and linking to hit
> from somewhere in my homepage could potentially achieve the same effect.

  It has been now over a week since I made the page and Google still hasn't
indexed it, even though it's linked to from me home page.

  Is there a way to tell google to index it?

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Gilles Tran
Subject: Re: Something I hate about web forums
Date: 15 Nov 2009 16:10:46
Message: <4b006e56$1@news.povray.org>

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>  Is there a way to tell google to index it?

Post the link to a couple of popular web forums that are fully on-topic and
indexed by Google. There's really no need to post it everywhere as these
kind of things can snowball easily if the content is right. Google indexing
is really a popularity contest: I've seen messages in famous web forums show
up a few *** minutes *** in the Google index after being posted. On the
other hand, pages with no external incoming links can stay in limbo for a
while.

G.


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From: Neeum Zawan
Subject: Re: Something I hate about web forums
Date: 15 Nov 2009 18:25:10
Message: <4b008dd6$1@news.povray.org>
On 11/15/09 10:48, Warp wrote:
>>    I don't have a "blog" per se, but making a html page and linking to hit
>> from somewhere in my homepage could potentially achieve the same effect.
>
>    It has been now over a week since I made the page and Google still hasn't
> indexed it, even though it's linked to from me home page.
>
>    Is there a way to tell google to index it?

	If you use, say, Wordpress as your blogging software, you can get 
Google to index it (as soon as you post?).

	So set up Wordpress and create a post with a link to whatever you want 
Google to index.

	Probably works for all major blogging systems/software. Heck, should 
work if you do that even with a Wordpress or Blogspot account.

	Haven't tried it, though.

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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Something I hate about web forums
Date: 15 Nov 2009 23:28:45
Message: <4b00d4fd@news.povray.org>
Neeum Zawan wrote:
> On 11/15/09 10:48, Warp wrote:
>>    It has been now over a week since I made the page and Google still
>>    hasn't
>> indexed it, even though it's linked to from me home page.
>>
>>    Is there a way to tell google to index it?
> 
> If you use, say, Wordpress as your blogging software, you can get
> Google to index it (as soon as you post?).
> 
> So set up Wordpress and create a post with a link to whatever you want
> Google to index.

How the hell does that work?


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From: Neeum Zawan
Subject: Re: Something I hate about web forums
Date: 16 Nov 2009 01:26:10
Message: <4b00f082@news.povray.org>
On 11/15/09 22:28, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
>> If you use, say, Wordpress as your blogging software, you can get
>> Google to index it (as soon as you post?).
>>
>> So set up Wordpress and create a post with a link to whatever you want
>> Google to index.
>
> How the hell does that work?

	Which part? Getting Google to automatically index blog posts?

	In Wordpress, go to Settings --> Privacy. Select the option that allows 
Google, etc to index. Then go to Settings --> Writing --> Update 
Services. See:

http://codex.wordpress.org/Update_Services



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