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On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 21:34:30 -0700, Patrick Elliott wrote:
> http://www.denialism.com/Deckofcards/deck.html
Cool, I like that. :-)
Jim
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On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 21:16:40 -0700, Chambers wrote:
> You have to agree, though, that it isn't economically feasible to supply
> every treatment available to every individual who might possibly need
> it. The cost would be so prohibitive as to cripple any economy.
Only if health care is about money rather than being about health, and
only if the approach taken is to apply all available treatments
indiscriminately without considering the most effective treatment that
gives the best chance for survival/cure/remission.
Jim
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Neeum Zawan wrote:
> On 08/02/09 14:06, Patrick Elliott wrote:
>> connections. But, it does make me wonder, given the politics and
>> background of the people around Bush *and* their idea of how to solve
>> some foreign policy issues (including continuing to support dictators
>> and work with places like Sandia Arabia), whether or not digging in
>> Bush's connections would land him with these people too.
>
> The "unholy" alliance with the Saudis goes back decades. It's silly
> to put it on Clinton or Bush's lap.
>
> And yes, I really do think they should shut down Sandia National Labs.
>
Not putting it in their laps, just pointing out that, if your suddenly
dealing with Middle Eastern terrorists, continuing to deal, as though a
trusted ally, with someone who has their own 'in house' training camps
for at least one group of terrorists, is... not terribly bright, no
matter how much oil they have.
--
void main () {
if version = "Vista" {
call slow_by_half();
call DRM_everything();
}
call functional_code();
}
else
call crash_windows();
}
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Chambers wrote:
> Patrick Elliott wrote:
>> Chambers wrote:
>>> (I have to disagree, though, as I think he was a deluded warmonger,
>>> and lots of people could have done better. Not Gore, but I'd
>>> probably even vote for Hillary over Bush if there were another
>>> election.)
>>>
>>
>> You sure about that one?
>>
>> http://www.alternet.org/rights/87665/?page=entire
>
> Quite an appropriate link for a thread that started about conspiracy
> theories ;)
>
Yes, well.. This is hardly a theory. The guy that wrote the book got
laughed at, a few years back when he did. Now.. three senators have
gotten nailed for thinking that they could do things that others can't,
it turns out that the C-Street boarding house actually exists, and *is*
listed as a church by the IRS, despite the fact that its clear there is
no church there, etc. Sometimes conspiracies are real. The problem is..
Well, look at who has been spreading most of the conspiracy theories
about the left, liberal Christians, scientists, etc... Yep, the people
who just "happen" to get caught doing this stuff recently.
And, to be clear, conspiracy theories from the other side lack any sort
of internal consistency, because they are all based on random gibberish.
The stuff coming from the right.. is *very* consistent. "We have the one
true version of the faith, everyone else is a false believer, or worse,
and they are all conspiring to undermine religions and our countries
non-existent 'Christian' foundations." Still get a laugh at that last
bit. Show me where, in the constitution, or anything written from the
period, where it says, "You can only have one god, you can't make graven
images, and you must observe the Sabbath, which ever day is happens to
be).", or how rules against theft, murder and adultery are
"non-existent" outside of Christianity, never mind how you can possibly
have a capitalist economy, if you are forbidden to covet anything anyone
else has... So.. Why keep trying to post those on every government
building, if they are **not** what the country is founded on? lol
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void main () {
if version = "Vista" {
call slow_by_half();
call DRM_everything();
}
call functional_code();
}
else
call crash_windows();
}
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On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 20:30:56 +0200, andrel <a_l### [at] hotmail com> wrote:
>>
>> I do the same or so my wife tells me.
>Take this advice of another victim of this strange behaviour: stop it.
>;) Learn to use phrases like 'he asked me if I would...' in stead of
>'will you...' and 'I asked her if...' in stead of 'will you...'. It will
>make the life of the listener so much easier. Also restrict yourself to
>the main points and don't act like a tape recorder, that will help the
>listener also to understand what you find the most important, and it
>saves time.
I don't recognise myself in that paragraph (maybe it does not translate well). I
tend to say "he said" and "he did" without mentioning which "he" I mean. But
with a little effort on the listener's part, mentally shifting subjects when the
sense is lost, understanding can be obtained :P
I tend to oscillate between speaking very precisely, as if I were writing a
functional spec and being too sloppy.
--
Regards
Stephen
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On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 10:48:31 -0700, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>"Yes, she's a real requirements Nazi. ... Er, that's a good thing."
Jawohl!
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Regards
Stephen
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Le 03/08/2009 06:16, Chambers nous fit lire :
> The cost would be so prohibitive as to cripple any economy.
If there is a cost, there is a possible benefit for whoever would make
it, charging the relevant states. And if there is a benefit, it does not
cripple the economy.
Or are you stating that the benefit of some individual is a bad thing
that cripple the economy ?
The facts are rather that it's a harder thing to do than other to make
benefit, so most lazy capitalists are just not lobbying to make an
industry of it.
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On 08/02/09 23:16, Chambers wrote:
> You have to agree, though, that it isn't economically feasible to supply
> every treatment available to every individual who might possibly need
> it. The cost would be so prohibitive as to cripple any economy.
Yes. And the relevance of that is...?
--
For a while, she had a boyfriend with a wooden leg. Then she broke it off.
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On 08/02/09 22:57, Chambers wrote:
> I've seen interviews with several people from his staff who talked of
> the pressure exerted on them to present information that fit in with the
> higher-up's views (though it's not clear if the pressure came from Bush
> himself, or if Cheney was trying to keep him misinformed).
Oh sure. However, that doesn't translate to "deluded".
--
For a while, she had a boyfriend with a wooden leg. Then she broke it off.
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Patrick Elliott <sel### [at] npgcablecom> wrote:
> favorite is some twit telling me, "Oh,
> well, that is just the Fibonacci sequence... Well, great, if I used the
> it for anything, I might remember what that was. But, a) I don't, and b)
> someone that has no clue what the sequence looks like in the first place
> isn't stupid, they just don't know what the sequence is, so can't figure
> it out.
Reminds me of this:
Q: How does this sequence continue?
M D M D _ _ _
A: No, it's not "... M D M", it's "... F S S".
Why? But isn't that plain obvois? It's the first letters of the German days of
week ("Montag Dienstag Mittwoch Donnerstag Freitag Samstag Sonntag") :P
Or, to put it in software developers' terms: Hey, the next characters in the
sequence could be *anything* until you show me the specs; after all, it migt
just as well be the output of a random number generator, right?
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