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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Microsoft Arrrrggghhh!
Date: 26 Jul 2009 09:50:00
Message: <web.4a6c5e0533922e41877441c40@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> > Now remember that there's a "Yes Sir, all of them", but no "No, none of them
> > please, just the other ones"...
>
> Hold the shift key, or control key, or something. It's out there - they just
> (for some stupid reason) didn't dedicate a button.

.... and for another stupid reason they don't tell you that.

Ah, I love Microsoft! If computers would just DWIT, wouldn't they be awfully
boring? :P


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Microsoft Arrrrggghhh!
Date: 26 Jul 2009 10:45:00
Message: <web.4a6c6b1e33922e41877441c40@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> > I think someone told that the reason was that they only designed boxes
> > with two buttons. So apparently the graphics design artist got priority
> > over useablility.
>
> More like "we already have a library routine for 2 buttons" than something
> graphics design, perhaps.

Actually, "we already have a library routine for dialogs that show a message and
a choice of buttons from "Ok", "Yes/No", "Yes/No/Cancel" and the like.

But they must have designed that "Yes/All/No/Cancel" dialog separately - it's
not a standard thing. And if a dialog features a way to say "None" by pressing
certain keys while clicking, it has to be custom-tailored as well. Or using
dirty tricks that can explode in your face the day after.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Microsoft Arrrrggghhh!
Date: 26 Jul 2009 12:17:21
Message: <4a6c8191$1@news.povray.org>
clipka wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>>> I think someone told that the reason was that they only designed boxes
>>> with two buttons. So apparently the graphics design artist got priority
>>> over useablility.
>> More like "we already have a library routine for 2 buttons" than something
>> graphics design, perhaps.
> 
> Actually, "we already have a library routine for dialogs that show a message and
> a choice of buttons from "Ok", "Yes/No", "Yes/No/Cancel" and the like.

Well, yes.

Just as bad are the dialog boxes that have "yes/no" or "ok/cancel" when what 
they really want is "save/discard" or "really save as plain text and lose 
the formatting" vs "change the format of the saved file so you don't lose 
formatting". :-)

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "We'd like you to back-port all the changes in 2.0
    back to version 1.0."
   "We've done that already. We call it 2.0."


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Microsoft Arrrrggghhh!
Date: 26 Jul 2009 12:21:14
Message: <4a6c827a$1@news.povray.org>
clipka wrote:
> Interesting thing I always wonder, what does Windows Explorer do when it
> "prepares to copy" files?

I'm assuming it's counting up sizes so it can give you an estimate of how 
long it'll take. It's also pretty annoying that now when you move a 
directory to another place on the same disk, or into the recycle bin, it 
usually winds up counting something instead of just moving the one 
directory. Weird.

> But noooo...

Wait for Windows 8?  That sort of stuff is pretty hard to get right, 
generally speaking. Vista is still better with this stuff than XP was.

Heck, I'd be happy if the little pieces of paper stopped flying from one 
folder to the other when the copy actually broke. WTF good is a progress 
indicator that runs regardless of whether you're making progress?

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "We'd like you to back-port all the changes in 2.0
    back to version 1.0."
   "We've done that already. We call it 2.0."


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Microsoft Arrrrggghhh!
Date: 27 Jul 2009 03:43:47
Message: <4a6d5ab3$1@news.povray.org>
> Oh, hell. My number one pet peeve... Move a directory, or like 200 files. 
> ***One*** frakking file, like 21 files in is "in use" by some process some 
> place, and you don't remember that,

Worst is when it's actually *Explorer* that has the file open, to show a 
thumbnail or read properties of whatever...


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Microsoft Arrrrggghhh!
Date: 27 Jul 2009 11:50:17
Message: <4a6dccb9@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
>> Oh, hell. My number one pet peeve... Move a directory, or like 200 
>> files. ***One*** frakking file, like 21 files in is "in use" by some 
>> process some place, and you don't remember that,
> 
> Worst is when it's actually *Explorer* that has the file open, to show a 
> thumbnail or read properties of whatever...

Yeah.  Plug-ins can do this too. We use "zip genius" at work, and half the 
time I can't copy a zip file because the genius is doing something with the 
file, and I have to open a command prompt to delete it. (I'm guessing the 
genius is reading thru the TOC any time it's selected in explorer or 
something. No idea, but it's very annoying.)

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "We'd like you to back-port all the changes in 2.0
    back to version 1.0."
   "We've done that already. We call it 2.0."


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Microsoft Arrrrggghhh!
Date: 27 Jul 2009 15:52:41
Message: <4a6e0589$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:33:30 -0700, Darren New wrote:

> Microsoft Arrrrggghhh!

Product naming FTW!

(Is this product related to Bob at all?)

Jim


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