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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Another conspiracy theory bites the dust
Date: 19 Jul 2009 07:51:31
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Neeum Zawan <m.n### [at] ieeeorg> wrote:
>         Gullible if they want to be gullible (or is that redundant)? I think 
> it's more of an anti-establishment attitude. And they want to appear 
> more sophisticated by challenging accepted beliefs.

  Ironically, it begins to look like if you *don't* believe in the hoax and
attest that everything was genuine, then you are having an anti-establishment
attitude. :P

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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Another conspiracy theory bites the dust
Date: 19 Jul 2009 20:19:50
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D***it, Warp, don't you know that reason has no place in conspiracy 
theories?!?!?

;)

(Sadly, one of my coworkers {who is, for most other intents and 
purposes, quite intelligent} also believes the moon landings were a 
hoax.  I wonder if this will shut him up)

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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Another conspiracy theory bites the dust
Date: 19 Jul 2009 20:22:16
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Warp wrote:
>   You can fake the images, but it's more difficult to fake the source of
> the images. I bet there were quite many people involved in receiving and
> processing those images. It would be quite hard to keep them all quiet
> about a hoax.

That's my main criticism of most conspiracy theories.  They assume a 
level of competency, skill, coordination and cooperation among such a 
large group of people that the mere idea is ludicrous.

Clearly, people who believe such things have never worked for a large 
company before.  If they had, they would understand just how difficult 
such a thing is.

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Another conspiracy theory bites the dust
Date: 20 Jul 2009 00:58:43
Message: <4a63f983@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> Gee, looks like there's footprints on the moon after all.

Funny enough, Aldrin doesn't seem to think it was a conspiracy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUI36tPKDg4


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   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "We'd like you to back-port all the changes in 2.0
    back to version 1.0."
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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Another conspiracy theory bites the dust
Date: 20 Jul 2009 14:16:20
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Chambers <Ben### [at] gmailcom_no_underscores> wrote:
> (Sadly, one of my coworkers {who is, for most other intents and 
> purposes, quite intelligent} also believes the moon landings were a 
> hoax.  I wonder if this will shut him up)

  Of course not. The more vocally someone believes the hoax, the less likely
he is to change his mind (or at least admit it). Pride.

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Another conspiracy theory bites the dust
Date: 20 Jul 2009 14:21:29
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Chambers <Ben### [at] gmailcom_no_underscores> wrote:
> Clearly, people who believe such things have never worked for a large 
> company before.  If they had, they would understand just how difficult 
> such a thing is.

  Especially since the Moon landings were not conducted as an internal
project of NASA. There were quite many third-party contractors involved
in the whole project. For example the lunar lander was constructed by a
third-party contractor (Grumman Aerospace Corporation).

  Many conspiracy theorists claim that the lunar lander couldn't have
worked. I think that the engineers at Grumman who designed the lander would
have known if it couldn't work. The idea of bribing a third-party company
to keep quite about a non-working lunar lander is rather ludicrous.

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Another conspiracy theory bites the dust
Date: 20 Jul 2009 14:23:29
Message: <4a64b621@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
> > Gee, looks like there's footprints on the moon after all.

> Funny enough, Aldrin doesn't seem to think it was a conspiracy.

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUI36tPKDg4

  I don't think punching someone in the face has ever felt as good as here. :P
(I knew about the incident, but I didn't know it was recorder on video.)

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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Another conspiracy theory bites the dust
Date: 21 Jul 2009 00:17:41
Message: <4a654165$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>> Gee, looks like there's footprints on the moon after all.
> 
> Funny enough, Aldrin doesn't seem to think it was a conspiracy.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUI36tPKDg4
> 
> 

That is AWESOME!

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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Another conspiracy theory bites the dust
Date: 21 Jul 2009 11:45:01
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Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUI36tPKDg4
>
>   I don't think punching someone in the face has ever felt as good as here. :P

Yeah!

I guess Buzz had been waiting for such an opportunity for years. At least I
probably would, if some zealous fool (or clever moneymaker) kept publicly
calling my life achievements a hoax.


BTW, I also like this one - looks like by now we may actually have the
technology they'd have needed to fake the whole smash :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mouUUWpEec0&feature=related


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Another conspiracy theory bites the dust
Date: 21 Jul 2009 12:31:02
Message: <4a65ed46$1@news.povray.org>
clipka wrote:
> BTW, I also like this one - looks like by now we may actually have the
> technology they'd have needed to fake the whole smash :P

That's hella funny!

I was at a lecture by one of the two guys once, and he was talking about how 
he was coming down the ladder, and his foot slipped, so he moved around to 
the back side of the ladder so if he fell off it wouldn't show on world-wide 
TV.  It was funny to go back and watch again, and see him come half way down 
and move to the other side, and know it wasn't really planned that way.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "We'd like you to back-port all the changes in 2.0
    back to version 1.0."
   "We've done that already. We call it 2.0."


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