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From: Kevin Wampler
Subject: Re: Another conspiracy theory bites the dust
Date: 18 Jul 2009 15:18:31
Message: <4a622007$1@news.povray.org>
Neeum Zawan wrote:
> 
>     It's much easier than faking the moon landings. Ergo, they could do it.
> 

And isn't it a bit *too* convenient that this new image is released not 
too long after people started asking questions about the truth of the 
moon landings?

I'm curious, does anyone have a statistic as to what percentage of 
people (in the US, Europe, whatever) actually believe that the landings 
were faked?


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Another conspiracy theory bites the dust
Date: 18 Jul 2009 15:49:01
Message: <4a62272d@news.povray.org>
Kevin Wampler <wam### [at] uwashingtonedu> wrote:
> I'm curious, does anyone have a statistic as to what percentage of 
> people (in the US, Europe, whatever) actually believe that the landings 
> were faked?

  Way too many. People are really gullible.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Another conspiracy theory bites the dust
Date: 18 Jul 2009 16:05:02
Message: <4a622aee$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Kevin Wampler <wam### [at] uwashingtonedu> wrote:
>> I'm curious, does anyone have a statistic as to what percentage of 
>> people (in the US, Europe, whatever) actually believe that the landings 
>> were faked?
> 
>   Way too many. People are really gullible.

http://fatpita.net/images/image%20(1832).jpg

On the other hand, atheists look at the faithful who have beliefs strongly 
contrary to science and feel the same as most people feel looking at the 
"moon landing was faked" believers.   It's sort of the same sensation: "that 
doesn't make sense - why do you disregard all the evidence against your theory?"

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "We'd like you to back-port all the changes in 2.0
    back to version 1.0."
   "We've done that already. We call it 2.0."


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Another conspiracy theory bites the dust
Date: 18 Jul 2009 16:25:01
Message: <web.4a622f1ad0a07a80707a5c110@news.povray.org>
Kevin Wampler <wam### [at] uwashingtonedu> wrote:
> And isn't it a bit *too* convenient that this new image is released not
> too long after people started asking questions about the truth of the
> moon landings?

"Not too long after..."? This Moon Hoax stuff has been around a while.

> I'm curious, does anyone have a statistic as to what percentage of
> people (in the US, Europe, whatever) actually believe that the landings
> were faked?

I guess ironically there's more in the US than in Europe who believe it was a
fake, or they covered up something, or what-have-you.

As a German, I've never come across anyone believing there was something fishy
about it - but from what I hear it seems like virtually all Americans know
*someone* who does.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Another conspiracy theory bites the dust
Date: 18 Jul 2009 18:04:33
Message: <fkh465dknt2d3o8kbeqr0ff057562kup03@4ax.com>
On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:22:50 EDT, "clipka" <nomail@nomail> wrote:

>
>As a German, I've never come across anyone believing there was something fishy
>about it - but from what I hear it seems like virtually all Americans know
>*someone* who does.
>

My mother in-law always said that she believed it was a hoax. But I'm sure she
said that just to wind me up.
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Neeum Zawan
Subject: Re: Another conspiracy theory bites the dust
Date: 18 Jul 2009 23:22:25
Message: <4a629171$1@news.povray.org>
On 07/18/09 14:18, Kevin Wampler wrote:
> And isn't it a bit *too* convenient that this new image is released not
> too long after people started asking questions about the truth of the
> moon landings?

	Something I sent to someone the other day:

(Subject line: NASA releases tribute to Michael Jackson)

         You think it's a coincidence that he died so close to the
anniversary? Think again. The Jackson 5's first number 1 was released in
1969. His naming the dance move as the moonwalk was part of a
partnership between him and NASA to subliminally make the population
sympathetic to NASA, so that they could get more funding.

         There really can be no doubt.

         I hear MJ was trying blackmail NASA: He told them to get the
government off his back permanently, or he would expose their complete
manipulation of the entertainment industry. Given that the movie Moon
was about to be released to the public, they just couldn't take that
risk.


-- 
Q: What do you call a half-dozen Indians with Asian flu?
A: Six sick Sikhs (sic).


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From: Neeum Zawan
Subject: Re: Another conspiracy theory bites the dust
Date: 18 Jul 2009 23:24:53
Message: <4a629205$1@news.povray.org>
On 07/18/09 14:49, Warp wrote:
> Kevin Wampler<wam### [at] uwashingtonedu>  wrote:
>> I'm curious, does anyone have a statistic as to what percentage of
>> people (in the US, Europe, whatever) actually believe that the landings
>> were faked?
>
>    Way too many. People are really gullible.

	Gullible if they want to be gullible (or is that redundant)? I think 
it's more of an anti-establishment attitude. And they want to appear 
more sophisticated by challenging accepted beliefs.


-- 
Q: What do you call a half-dozen Indians with Asian flu?
A: Six sick Sikhs (sic).


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Another conspiracy theory bites the dust
Date: 19 Jul 2009 07:51:31
Message: <4a6308c3@news.povray.org>
Neeum Zawan <m.n### [at] ieeeorg> wrote:
>         Gullible if they want to be gullible (or is that redundant)? I think 
> it's more of an anti-establishment attitude. And they want to appear 
> more sophisticated by challenging accepted beliefs.

  Ironically, it begins to look like if you *don't* believe in the hoax and
attest that everything was genuine, then you are having an anti-establishment
attitude. :P

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Another conspiracy theory bites the dust
Date: 19 Jul 2009 20:19:50
Message: <4a63b826$1@news.povray.org>
D***it, Warp, don't you know that reason has no place in conspiracy 
theories?!?!?

;)

(Sadly, one of my coworkers {who is, for most other intents and 
purposes, quite intelligent} also believes the moon landings were a 
hoax.  I wonder if this will shut him up)

-- 
Chambers


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Another conspiracy theory bites the dust
Date: 19 Jul 2009 20:22:16
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Warp wrote:
>   You can fake the images, but it's more difficult to fake the source of
> the images. I bet there were quite many people involved in receiving and
> processing those images. It would be quite hard to keep them all quiet
> about a hoax.

That's my main criticism of most conspiracy theories.  They assume a 
level of competency, skill, coordination and cooperation among such a 
large group of people that the mere idea is ludicrous.

Clearly, people who believe such things have never worked for a large 
company before.  If they had, they would understand just how difficult 
such a thing is.

-- 
Chambers


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