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Andrew's whine about the collaboration system reminded me of one thing
I've wondered. Whenever there's a need to show a DVD on a meeting with a
projector, why everyone thinks immediality that they need a laptop? This
used to happen pretty much at work and even the people who have a home
theatre come to the IT department "Hey guys, I'll need to show a DVD,
would you have a laptop?". Why won't they think of a.. dunno, maybe a
DVD-player? A normal DVD-player works 100% sure under one minute from
starting it and costs under 100€. Why would anyone want to replace one
with a 10-times more expensive laptop, which boots for half eternity and
might eg. upgrade itself for 20 minutes, when they're not going to do
anything more than just show the DVD? Is a laptop something cool? Is it
a feeling that you can't hook anything but laptop to the projector?
This ain't anymore a problem at work for me - I started directing the
people asking a laptop for this to the department that buys the
non-IT-stuff we use at work to ask for a DVD-player. Today most of our
meeting rooms (at least the ones with a projector) include a DVD-player
and some kind of audio equipment and people are happy, because those
dedicated devices just work - they just couldn't think of it themselves.
-Aero
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> Andrew's whine about the collaboration system reminded me of one thing
> I've wondered. Whenever there's a need to show a DVD on a meeting with a
> projector, why everyone thinks immediality that they need a laptop? This
> used to happen pretty much at work and even the people who have a home
> theatre come to the IT department "Hey guys, I'll need to show a DVD,
> would you have a laptop?". Why won't they think of a.. dunno, maybe a
> DVD-player?
Maybe because most companies have tons of laptops lying around, but very few
(if any) DVD players. Also a DVD player needs some external components to
work, like amplifier and speakers, which I have not seen in many meeting
rooms (apart from in companies that actually make audio equipment).
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Because they often need to show Powerpoint presentations as well.
--
Chambers
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Eero Ahonen wrote:
> Whenever there's a need to show a DVD on a meeting with a
> projector, why everyone thinks immediality that they need a laptop?
I have yet to see anybody have a need to show a DVD in a meeting. It's
much more usual to need to show PowerPoint, or some WMA-encoded file on
the file server / intranet, or a VNC/RDP session or something like than
than a plain ordinary DVD.
Also, I would imagine most companies have lots of laptops around the
place, but approximately 0 DVD-players.
But sure, in principle, if showing a DVD is what you actually want to
do, a DVD player is, sockingly, the most efficient way to do this.
Unless you have my mum's DVD player. In that case, using a light
microscope to transcribe the pits and flats by hand and perform the DCT
with pencil and paper would be far, far faster than waiting for the
player to start up. :-P
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> Unless you have my mum's DVD player. In that case, using a light
> microscope to transcribe the pits and flats by hand and perform the DCT
> with pencil and paper would be far, far faster than waiting for the
> player to start up. :-P
LOL
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>> Unless you have my mum's DVD player. In that case, using a light
>> microscope to transcribe the pits and flats by hand and perform the
>> DCT with pencil and paper would be far, far faster than waiting for
>> the player to start up. :-P
>
> LOL
I guess you needed that this early in the morning, eh? ;-)
Seriously though. From pressing the ON button until the disk tray will
open is about 45 seconds. I've seen plenty of laptops that will get to
the Windows logon prompt faster than that. Hell, my laptop at home has
God-damned *Vista* and it gets TO THE DESKTOP faster than that.
Once you insert the DVD, you must wait a further 35 seconds before it
attempts to play it. All of which is quite absurdly slow.
I wouldn't mind, but it was expensive...
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> Seriously though. From pressing the ON button until the disk tray will
> open is about 45 seconds.
It's probably running Linux internally or something :-)
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scott wrote:
>> Seriously though. From pressing the ON button until the disk tray will
>> open is about 45 seconds.
>
> It's probably running Linux internally or something :-)
You laugh, but that's probably not actually far from the truth...
My dad's WiFi access point is actually running Linux. You can telnet
into it and run shell commands if you want. (But we just use the HTTP
interface; I have *no idea* how to program the settings manually!)
I think the BT Vision Box might be Linux too...
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Eero Ahonen wrote:
> Andrew's whine about the collaboration system reminded me of one thing
> I've wondered. Whenever there's a need to show a DVD on a meeting with a
> projector, why everyone thinks immediality that they need a laptop?
...
Maybe because very often all they can/could find on the table is/was a cable
with a male 15 pin D-sub connector. No way to connect it to a DVD-player.
(Yes, I know - all this is changing with new DVI and HDMI connectors.)
--
Tor Olav
http://subcube.com
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scott wrote:
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> Maybe because most companies have tons of laptops lying around, but very
> few (if any) DVD players.
I don't think so. Even our paragliding teacher first asked for a laptop,
even though he has a fully equipped home theater and he doesn't work for
a big company.
> Also a DVD player needs some external
> components to work, like amplifier and speakers, which I have not seen
> in many meeting rooms (apart from in companies that actually make audio
> equipment).
Most of the laptop speakers are so pathetic they can't be called
speakers - at least not at a meeting room, there's simply just not
enough sound. Pretty many projectors, especially the meeting room models
have more decent audio equipment themselves.
-Aero
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