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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Watching DVD's on big screens
Date: 30 Jun 2009 03:28:10
Message: <4a49be8a@news.povray.org>
Because they often need to show Powerpoint presentations as well.

-- 
Chambers


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Watching DVD's on big screens
Date: 30 Jun 2009 04:31:03
Message: <4a49cd47@news.povray.org>
Eero Ahonen wrote:
> Whenever there's a need to show a DVD on a meeting with a
> projector, why everyone thinks immediality that they need a laptop?

I have yet to see anybody have a need to show a DVD in a meeting. It's 
much more usual to need to show PowerPoint, or some WMA-encoded file on 
the file server / intranet, or a VNC/RDP session or something like than 
than a plain ordinary DVD.

Also, I would imagine most companies have lots of laptops around the 
place, but approximately 0 DVD-players.

But sure, in principle, if showing a DVD is what you actually want to 
do, a DVD player is, sockingly, the most efficient way to do this.

Unless you have my mum's DVD player. In that case, using a light 
microscope to transcribe the pits and flats by hand and perform the DCT 
with pencil and paper would be far, far faster than waiting for the 
player to start up. :-P


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Watching DVD's on big screens
Date: 30 Jun 2009 04:33:06
Message: <4a49cdc2$1@news.povray.org>
> Unless you have my mum's DVD player. In that case, using a light 
> microscope to transcribe the pits and flats by hand and perform the DCT 
> with pencil and paper would be far, far faster than waiting for the 
> player to start up. :-P

LOL


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Watching DVD's on big screens
Date: 30 Jun 2009 04:37:46
Message: <4a49ceda$1@news.povray.org>
>> Unless you have my mum's DVD player. In that case, using a light 
>> microscope to transcribe the pits and flats by hand and perform the 
>> DCT with pencil and paper would be far, far faster than waiting for 
>> the player to start up. :-P
> 
> LOL

I guess you needed that this early in the morning, eh? ;-)

Seriously though. From pressing the ON button until the disk tray will 
open is about 45 seconds. I've seen plenty of laptops that will get to 
the Windows logon prompt faster than that. Hell, my laptop at home has 
God-damned *Vista* and it gets TO THE DESKTOP faster than that.

Once you insert the DVD, you must wait a further 35 seconds before it 
attempts to play it. All of which is quite absurdly slow.

I wouldn't mind, but it was expensive...


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Watching DVD's on big screens
Date: 30 Jun 2009 04:48:24
Message: <4a49d158$1@news.povray.org>
> Seriously though. From pressing the ON button until the disk tray will 
> open is about 45 seconds. 

It's probably running Linux internally or something :-)


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Watching DVD's on big screens
Date: 30 Jun 2009 04:51:07
Message: <4a49d1fb@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
>> Seriously though. From pressing the ON button until the disk tray will 
>> open is about 45 seconds. 
> 
> It's probably running Linux internally or something :-)

You laugh, but that's probably not actually far from the truth...

My dad's WiFi access point is actually running Linux. You can telnet 
into it and run shell commands if you want. (But we just use the HTTP 
interface; I have *no idea* how to program the settings manually!)

I think the BT Vision Box might be Linux too...


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From: Tor Olav Kristensen
Subject: Re: Watching DVD's on big screens
Date: 30 Jun 2009 05:58:17
Message: <4a49e1b9$1@news.povray.org>
Eero Ahonen wrote:
> Andrew's whine about the collaboration system reminded me of one thing
> I've wondered. Whenever there's a need to show a DVD on a meeting with a
> projector, why everyone thinks immediality that they need a laptop?
...

Maybe because very often all they can/could find on the table is/was a cable
with a male 15 pin D-sub connector. No way to connect it to a DVD-player.

(Yes, I know - all this is changing with new DVI and HDMI connectors.)

-- 
Tor Olav
http://subcube.com


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Watching DVD's on big screens
Date: 30 Jun 2009 08:35:08
Message: <4a4a067c$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
> 
> Maybe because most companies have tons of laptops lying around, but very
> few (if any) DVD players.  

I don't think so. Even our paragliding teacher first asked for a laptop,
even though he has a fully equipped home theater and he doesn't work for
a big company.

> Also a DVD player needs some external
> components to work, like amplifier and speakers, which I have not seen
> in many meeting rooms (apart from in companies that actually make audio
> equipment).

Most of the laptop speakers are so pathetic they can't be called
speakers - at least not at a meeting room, there's simply just not
enough sound. Pretty many projectors, especially the meeting room models
have more decent audio equipment themselves.

-Aero


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Watching DVD's on big screens
Date: 30 Jun 2009 08:42:51
Message: <4a4a084b$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> 
> I have yet to see anybody have a need to show a DVD in a meeting. It's
> much more usual to need to show PowerPoint, or some WMA-encoded file on
> the file server / intranet, or a VNC/RDP session or something like than
> than a plain ordinary DVD.

Yes, that certainly is more usual. But it's not rare that at my work
people are eg. showing commercials from a DVD. At paragliding course we
watched educational DVD.

> Also, I would imagine most companies have lots of laptops around the
> place, but approximately 0 DVD-players.

That's also possible. Not us, though. If you need a laptop, your
superior has to explain why you need one, after that IT department
orders it.

> But sure, in principle, if showing a DVD is what you actually want to
> do, a DVD player is, sockingly, the most efficient way to do this.

Yep. It just seems that nobody thinks of it, if you're showing the DVD
off with a projector. If you hook it to TV, people think DVD -player and
don't even realize that laptop can be hooked on TV.

> Unless you have my mum's DVD player. In that case, using a light
> microscope to transcribe the pits and flats by hand and perform the DCT
> with pencil and paper would be far, far faster than waiting for the
> player to start up. :-P

Why yes, it's a HiFi-model, it needs to warm up first to make sure the
picture won't have 7th harmonics on the signal!

-Aero


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Watching DVD's on big screens
Date: 30 Jun 2009 08:53:54
Message: <4a4a0ae2@news.povray.org>
>> I have yet to see anybody have a need to show a DVD in a meeting. It's
>> much more usual to need to show PowerPoint, or some WMA-encoded file on
>> the file server / intranet, or a VNC/RDP session or something like than
>> than a plain ordinary DVD.
> 
> Yes, that certainly is more usual. But it's not rare that at my work
> people are eg. showing commercials from a DVD. At paragliding course we
> watched educational DVD.

OK, fair enough then.

> Yep. It just seems that nobody thinks of it, if you're showing the DVD
> off with a projector. If you hook it to TV, people think DVD -player and
> don't even realize that laptop can be hooked on TV.

I think that's just it: People think you can only connect computers to a 
computer projector, and only video equipment to a TV.

>> Unless you have my mum's DVD player.
> 
> Why yes, it's a HiFi-model, it needs to warm up first to make sure the
> picture won't have 7th harmonics on the signal!

...it's HDMI? :-P


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