http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xceiMJSunIg

I'm not sure why they're advertising Linux, tho. Maybe it just never 
actually ran on TV or something. Or is it a HW manufacturer trying to ditch 
the Windows license fees?

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   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   There's no CD like OCD, there's no CD I knoooow!

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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xceiMJSunIg

> I'm not sure why they're advertising Linux, tho. Maybe it just never 
> actually ran on TV or something. Or is it a HW manufacturer trying to ditch 
> the Windows license fees?

  Looked like a rather lame attempt at... something.

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                                                          - Warp

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On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:26:59 -0700, Darren New wrote:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xceiMJSunIg
> 
> I'm not sure why they're advertising Linux, tho. Maybe it just never
> actually ran on TV or something. Or is it a HW manufacturer trying to
> ditch the Windows license fees?

It's a video from the Linux Foundation's video contest. :-)

Jim

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Linux... Been there, done that. I used to be such a Linux freak. Until I got a
job. Time became precious, and I didn't feel like configuring my system and
reading Howtos for days and weeks just to get things running. Linux is nice for
building servers for free, but as a desktop system, it sucked penguin balls. And
I'm pretty sure it'll be like that forever.
Cheers,
Burkhard

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"moppel" <mop### [at] tutututututude> wrote:
> Linux... Been there, done that. I used to be such a Linux freak. Until I got a
> job. Time became precious, and I didn't feel like configuring my system and
> reading Howtos for days and weeks just to get things running. Linux is nice for
> building servers for free, but as a desktop system, it sucked penguin balls. And
> I'm pretty sure it'll be like that forever.

Yeah. I do have a Linux system - but just as a secondary system to run POV on.
That, and nothing else. Didn't want to throw money at MS for another Windows
license, nor did I want to set up a few "render all this stuff, and I'll see
you later" scripts with Windows stuff. Let alone coming home after work and
finding that the machine has crashed on my 48-hour-render...

So for this purpose, it has proven the right decision. For anything other than
that, I wouldn't want it.

As you say: Time is precious, and I have enough other things to toy around with.

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On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:21:14 -0400, moppel wrote:

> And I'm pretty sure it'll be like that forever.

Maybe you should try a distro that's been developed and released in the 
last 5 years.

Seriously, what you describe reminds me of RedHat in the v6 and v7 days.

I use Linux every day for work and for personal use.  In general, it just 
works - in fact my most recent experiences with Vista have been exercises 
in complete and total frustration.  5 different apps to update software 
from different vendors (including 2 from Microsoft), 6 hours to install 
the updates from the past year and a half, about 10 reboots during that 
entire process, and it's still not updated to current.

Yeah, Vista is a dream.....if you like nightmares.

Comparatively, on my openSUSE 11.0 boxes, I drop to a console and enter:

zypper up -t package

And the system is *current*.

If I wanted to do this from a GUI, I could, but one CLI command does it 
all for me - so why would I want a GUI?  I can type those 20 characters 
and hit enter faster than most could click through the prompts in any OS' 
update application.

Jim

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Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> Maybe you should try a distro that's been developed and released in the
> last 5 years.

I'm pretty sure someone experienced with tinkering around with Linux sees these
things differently, and possibly even rightly so.

But what I've seen so far, with a modern distro (Debian Etch... well, Lenny is
out now, but I guess Etch will still qualify as modern), is that it has
improved somewhat, but switching from Windows to Linux is probably still a
full-time job...

> Yeah, Vista is a dream.....if you like nightmares.

.... and so is probably switching from Windows XP to Windows Vista, for that
matter.

> Comparatively, on my openSUSE 11.0 boxes, I drop to a console and enter:
>
> zypper up -t package
>
> And the system is *current*.

Well, that's probably true for all the open source software coming with it, but
suppose you have a few commercial apps? I bet they won't respond to "zypper up
-t package". (And does "zypper up -t package" pull the latest POV beta? I bet
neither ;))

BTW, in XP, to get the OS *itself* up to date, I don't even hit a few keys to
start it. I just klick an "accept" button when it starts automatically.

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"moppel" <mop### [at] tutututututude> wrote:
> Linux... Been there, done that. I used to be such a Linux freak. Until I got a
> job. Time became precious, and I didn't feel like configuring my system and
> reading Howtos for days and weeks just to get things running. Linux is nice for
> building servers for free, but as a desktop system, it sucked penguin balls. And
> I'm pretty sure it'll be like that forever.

It's true, and it sounds like you probably have more experience in that
department than I do, but things have improved dramatically since I tried it
just a couple years back.  With Ubuntu, wireless, graphics acceleration, and
sound all worked immediately without a bit of the painful setup I had to go
through the last time.  Might be interesting to check back sometime and see how
things have progressed.

 - Ricky

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Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:21:14 -0400, moppel wrote:
> Seriously, what you describe reminds me of RedHat in the v6 and v7 days.
> ...
> Yeah, Vista is a dream.....if you like nightmares.

You're right, that's a couple of years ago. It was even before Ubuntu. However,
I'm actually happy with Vista. Never had trouble with it. The one thing I still
miss is Linux' shell scripting capabilities. But that's not enough to make want
to spend any effort to get into Linux again. And it's saving so much time when
you have to handle only one OS instead of two.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure that Linux made great progress and that it's
working perfect for you. But I already gave it so many "second chances" back
then. Now I'm using Windows exclusively, and I don't regret it.
Cheers,
Burkhard

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moppel <mop### [at] tutututututude> wrote:
> Linux... Been there, done that. I used to be such a Linux freak. Until I got a
> job. Time became precious, and I didn't feel like configuring my system and
> reading Howtos for days and weeks just to get things running. Linux is nice for
> building servers for free, but as a desktop system, it sucked penguin balls. And
> I'm pretty sure it'll be like that forever.

  Nice troll.

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                                                          - Warp

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