On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 22:21:14 -0400, moppel wrote:

> And I'm pretty sure it'll be like that forever.

Maybe you should try a distro that's been developed and released in the 
last 5 years.

Seriously, what you describe reminds me of RedHat in the v6 and v7 days.

I use Linux every day for work and for personal use.  In general, it just 
works - in fact my most recent experiences with Vista have been exercises 
in complete and total frustration.  5 different apps to update software 
from different vendors (including 2 from Microsoft), 6 hours to install 
the updates from the past year and a half, about 10 reboots during that 
entire process, and it's still not updated to current.

Yeah, Vista is a dream.....if you like nightmares.

Comparatively, on my openSUSE 11.0 boxes, I drop to a console and enter:

zypper up -t package

And the system is *current*.

If I wanted to do this from a GUI, I could, but one CLI command does it 
all for me - so why would I want a GUI?  I can type those 20 characters 
and hit enter faster than most could click through the prompts in any OS' 
update application.

Jim

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