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>> I guess I'm still smarting from that guy yelling at me because I keep
>> asking how rank-2 types work and I still can't get my head around it.
>
> You need to sit down interactively with someone. There were a handful of
> things I just couldn't grok until I got someone more expert to give me a
> clue, then it all fell into place. (LISP being one of those, for example.)
Yeah, well... not much danger of that. ;-)
>> Actually, I'm still not really comprehending why double-entry book
>> keeping is really relevant to a computer science degree, but still...
>
> It's as relevant as anything else. Computer science (such as it is)
> doesn't solve any problems on its own. :-)
See, I don't give a **** about solving real-world problems. I only care
about solving "interesting" problems. ;-)
This is possibly why I'm so unemployable... :-/
>> is another qualification going to be different?
>
> Because in getting that qualification, you get introduced to all the
> people working in the fields that interest you.
I don't think anybody is "working" with Haskell. (As in, getting paid
money to use it.) I could be wrong, but it seems pretty rare.
>>> and will have many more employment options once you are done.
>> I currently doubt this one.
>
> OK, put it this way... So what? You're not finding any good jobs now.
> After, if you still don't find any good jobs, what did you lose?
Several thousand pounds in debts? Several years of my life? Possibly my
sanity? :-} (Did you *see* the links I posted?)
>> I'm thinking I might make a list of cool stuff just for the hell of
>> it, actually. :-D
>
> You definitely should.
Meh. I tried making a list of cool things, and it ended up having
entries like "complex numbers. Because you can calculate stuff with
them!" Pretty retarded, eh?
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Invisible wrote:
> Well, I guess it depends on finding a good subject.
First decide what subjects you'd be interested in working on.
Then find someone working on those subjects.
Then go to the school where that person is.
4 - Profit!
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> First decide what subjects you'd be interested in working on.
>
> Then find someone working on those subjects.
>
> Then go to the school where that person is.
>
> 4 - Profit!
I'd settle for break-even, BTH.
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On 20-2-2009 23:06, Darren New wrote:
> andrel wrote:
>> The number of atoms in a given volume of gas at standard pressure is
>> constant, hence the weight of a volume of N2 is 7 times that of H2 and
>> O2 8 times. So why did you expect a few percent?
>
> You studied physics and you're confusing atomic number with atomic mass?
yip, not paying attention and writing mail while trying to concentrate
on sets of cubic coordinate transformations. Not a good Idea.
Reconstruction: N2 is about 7x2x2 times as heavy as one H. I know I
corrected one factor 2 for H2, but I don't know which any more.
> <insert asshole PhD comment here>
ok: Thanks for pointing out.
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On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:54:57 -0800, Darren New wrote:
>> 3. I don't think I can spare the time. (I have a job to do, sucky as it
>> is.)
>
> Go where they'll pay for you. You can't reasonably do a PhD while
> you're holding down a full-time job, IMO.
Agreed. I've got a few friends who got their PhD's and one of them made
a little money on the side playing the stock market (risky, but Tim's an
outstanding maths guy and good at research - and he took quite a while to
get his doctorate, at that), but generally it was a full-time job paid
for by grant money, like you said.
>> I seem to vaguely recall somebody (I forget who) claiming to know who
>> to go to for this kind of thing, and offering to help me arrange it.
>
> I've done it in the USA. Apparently the UK is much different. But don't
> limit yourself to the UK. Lots of people travel abroad to do schooling
> like that.
Agreed. Plus going to school abroad looks great on a resume. Andy
shouldn't let his view of going to a foreign country be coloured by a few
jerks in the company he works for who happen to be based in the US.
Jim
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On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 22:17:09 +0000, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> 4) Profit!
>
> Anybody know the origins of this curios meme?
Slashdot.
Jim
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On 20-2-2009 22:54, Darren New wrote:
>
> Go where they'll pay for you. You can't reasonably do a PhD while
> you're holding down a full-time job, IMO.
It can be done. My only PhD student ATM has a full time job elsewhere. I
sorta did that and one of my former PhD students also did not have a
regular PhD position. It may take a bit longer doing it this way. The
environment you are working in should be research minded of course.
Actually I think that for Andy it might work. At least in an environment
like my department where the distinction between scientific staff and
supporting staff is rather blurred. I think I mentioned it recently in
another thread, we do have a couple of people that started out as
supporting staff and then converted to do a PhD. I don't know enough
about the English system to know if such things are possible there.
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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> > Plus, you'll meet girls. :-)
>
> Oh. My. GOD! >_<
>
> You cannot *possibly* expect me to take anything else you say seriously
> now, can you? :-P
Now we all know it's the truth, but you might want to play that one down, at
least until you're in:
http://ccartier.blogspot.com/2009/01/rejected-stanford-bschool-essay.html
> Heh. Actually, a few weeks back I did look at MSRC. But I couldn't
> figure out what they were talking about. I surmised this probably means
> I'm too stupid to be there. :-}
That doesn't mean your stupid [sic]. I'm sure many people in the field couldn't
understand it because they haven't worked on it. What's important is whether
you can learn it, not whether you already know it.
> Much as it would be fun to meet the legendary Simon PJ, I rather doubt
> they have any PhD openings to do with Haskell right about now.
Don't doubt it. Find out, and you might find something else interesting along
the way.
> > 4) Profit!
>
> Anybody know the origins of this curios meme?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnomes_(South_Park_episode)
- Ricky
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andrel wrote:
>> <insert asshole PhD comment here>
> ok: Thanks for pointing out.
Just to be clear, I was calling myself an ass for making fun of you for a
mistake like that. I wasn't calling you that. I'm not sure what your
response means you thought I meant. :-)
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> I wandered into lots of terms like "universal quantification" and got
> horribly lost...
You should look up "universal quantification" and "existential
quantification" on wikipedia. They're really straightforward concepts with
big names. It's like one step up from boolean logic.
I strongly suspect you already know what the words mean, and you just don't
know there's a mathematical term for what they name.
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