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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Dr POV-Ray
Date: 22 Feb 2009 15:45:09
Message: <49a1b955$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> I did actually get my BSc. And yet, nobody gives a **** about that. 
>>> How is a PhD different?
>>
>> What's the difference between being a sailor in the navy and the 
>> captain of the ship?  In one, you're swabbing the decks when the 
>> captain tells you to. In the other, you're responsible for making sure 
>> the ship gets where it's going.
> 
> Oh, I'm sorry, I thought that was the ship's engineer. ;-) </sarcasm>

No. The ship's engineer makes the ship run. It's the captain's 
responsibility to make the ship get there. That's why the ship's captain 
traditionally has ultimate authority as well as ultimate responsibility.

Don't confuse ability with responsibility. :-)

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Dr SQL
Date: 22 Feb 2009 15:53:09
Message: <49a1bb35$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> The trick is to be able to associate all this abstraction with reality 
> in your mind, so that you can use it to do Useful Stuff. ;-)

Yes. The problem comes when people think that the math implies something 
about the real world they don't have to check for accuracy. :-)

>> Um, yes? :-) Was that supposed to be a relevant comment?
> Apparently large numbers of people aren't aware of this particular fact.

Well, yes, there is that.

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Dr POV-Ray
Date: 22 Feb 2009 16:07:23
Message: <49a1be8b$1@news.povray.org>
>>> What's the difference between being a sailor in the navy and the 
>>> captain of the ship?  In one, you're swabbing the decks when the 
>>> captain tells you to. In the other, you're responsible for making 
>>> sure the ship gets where it's going.
>>
>> Oh, I'm sorry, I thought that was the ship's engineer. ;-) </sarcasm>
> 
> Don't confuse ability with responsibility. :-)

Ah. Sorry... I'm used to working in a place where I get held responsible 
for things I have no ability to control. :-}

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Dr POV-Ray
Date: 22 Feb 2009 16:10:35
Message: <49a1bf4b$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Ah. Sorry... I'm used to working in a place where I get held responsible 
> for things I have no ability to control. :-}

That's called scapegoating. It's held in great regard here. People base 
religions on it, even.

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   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   My fortune cookie said, "You will soon be
   unable to read this, even at arm's length."


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Dr POV-Ray
Date: 22 Feb 2009 16:14:44
Message: <49a1c044@news.povray.org>
>> Ah. Sorry... I'm used to working in a place where I get held 
>> responsible for things I have no ability to control. :-}
> 
> That's called scapegoating. It's held in great regard here. People base 
> religions on it, even.

Heh. Not so much. It's more... I'm held responsible for a bunch of 
stuff, but other people like to change it around without asking me 
beforehand, or telling me afterwards. :-/

I was chatting to our accountant and she was saying it's the same with 
finance. They're control freaks who want to be in control of 
*everything*, but they don't want to do any actual work... which means 
stuff doesn't get done, and then it's the UK's fault it didn't get done, 
even though that's what they asked us to do... etc.

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Dr POV-Ray
Date: 22 Feb 2009 16:23:48
Message: <49a1c264$1@news.povray.org>
>> Of course, if it was just some dump-ass teacher, it wouldn't matter so 
>> much. The problem was that *everybody* told me I was stupid. 
>> Throughout my whole life. Hence my self-evident mental issues. x_o
> 
> Yes. Getting constantly put down will eventually lead to problems.
> 
> Get over it. You're not stupid. Everyone else was, for telling you you are.

Heh - or just jelous. ;-)

Seriously though... I think having a little positive reinforcement would 
have helped. I'm still trying to arrive at a point in my life where 
there are people around me who have *nice* things to say about me... 
This turns out to be seriously difficult. :-/

>> ...wait, are you that guy who has a Chinese wife?
> 
> Yes.

Ah. That makes more sense...

>> OK, that's just mental. At college, we had 14 guys, 0 girls. At uni we 
>> had [approximately] 75 guys and 5 girls [almost all married with 
>> children].
> 
> Undergradutate, yes. We had something like 25 guys and 3 girls in the 
> classes when I was undergrad.

? OK, well that's pretty random... So if there are no girl graduates, 
where do all the girl PhDs come from?? o_O

>> Heh. My mum's first reaction was "and what are you going to do after 
>> that?" Not that my mum's opinion is especially important. I was just 
>> wondering how much she'd freak out. ;-)
> 
> I think the right answer is "live far away from *you*!" :-)

Heh. Not wise to say that out loud. ;-)

>> Ah. Is *that* why every country in the EU speaks English, but the 
>> English can't speak any damned language except English? :-} I often 
>> wonder about that...
> 
> Yes. You didn't figure that out? That's why there's like 200 languages 
> in India, but everyone speaks English. And why Americans mostly speak 
> English. And why lots of Africa speaks English. And why lots of central 
> and south america speak spanish or something close to it.

Mmm, actually... This still doesn't explain why people in most EU 
countries speak *several* languages, not just English.

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Dr POV-Ray
Date: 22 Feb 2009 17:19:02
Message: <2oj3q41ut0o603poe7oifeb82h8prt2dki@4ax.com>
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 10:51:27 EST, "triple_r" <nomail@nomail> wrote:

>Stephen <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote:
>> True but not a lot. I believe that introspection is bad for you, I also believe
>> that analysis, public displays of grief and talking about your (not aimed at
>> you) feelings are amongst the worst things that you can do for your mental
>> health.
>
>Ignorance is bliss?
>

It can be.

>> <Sits back and waits for the avalanche>
>
>No avalanche, just curious.

Yellow ?
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     Stephen


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From: Kevin Wampler
Subject: Re: Dr POV-Ray
Date: 22 Feb 2009 17:21:34
Message: <49a1cfee$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>>> Plus, you'll meet girls. :-)
>>>
>>> Oh. My. GOD! >_<
>>>
>>> You cannot *possibly* expect me to take anything else you say 
>>> seriously now, can you? :-P
>>
>> Know what? My wife has a PhD too. Know where I met her?
> 
> Heh. What do you have a PhD *in* though?

I'm sharing a (largish) house with four other people at the moment, and 
three of us are currently dating women who we met in a PhD computer 
science program.  I think that the reason Darren's suggestion make some 
sense is not because in a graduate program you're associating with 
people (men and women alike) who have share interests with you, so it's 
easy to meet people you have things in common with.  Note, however, that 
you still mostly discuss non-computer related things -- it's just that 
nobody bats an eye when you do say something technical :)

Of course meeting women shouldn't be your primary concern in going to 
grad school, as there's ways to do that which involve way less effort. 
That said, it does seem like it would be well, well worth your while to 
move out of home and go somewhere (another job or graduate school) where 
  you're not the only person around who enjoys technical topics.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Dr POV-Ray
Date: 22 Feb 2009 17:26:25
Message: <49a1d111$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Heh. Not so much. It's more... I'm held responsible for a bunch of 
> stuff, but other people like to change it around without asking me 
> beforehand, or telling me afterwards. :-/

Do you have the authority to prevent them from doing it? If not, then you 
don't have the authority.

I assume you're responsible for the security of the computers, keeping 
hackers from breaking in, stuff like that?  Next time they change the 
configuration without asking and you notice it, treat it like a hacker 
break-in: disconnect from the network, change all the passwords, dump out 
the audit logs, and look for who broke into the machine. If they ask what's 
going on, tell them you have hackers changing the configuration and you're 
trying to find what the hole is. When they admit they did it, ask them where 
the log entry for the changes is. If they can't produce any, insist you'll 
have to continue your audit until you're confident they're the only ones 
making unauthorized modifications to the system. But step one would be to 
change the admin-level passwords on everything to ensure the hackers are 
locked out of the systems before you start your analysis. :-)

> I was chatting to our accountant and she was saying it's the same with 
> finance. 

I'm not surprised.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   My fortune cookie said, "You will soon be
   unable to read this, even at arm's length."


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Dr POV-Ray
Date: 22 Feb 2009 17:30:54
Message: <49a1d21e@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> ? OK, well that's pretty random... So if there are no girl graduates, 
> where do all the girl PhDs come from?? o_O

Many were from other countries. Those who weren't? Dunno. Maybe other majors?

> Mmm, actually... This still doesn't explain why people in most EU 
> countries speak *several* languages, not just English.

Because there aren't enough natural barriers? It's pretty easy to walk from 
France to Spain to Germany. No so easy to walk to England.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   My fortune cookie said, "You will soon be
   unable to read this, even at arm's length."


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