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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: A random offer
Date: 14 Feb 2009 05:50:42
Message: <4996a202$1@news.povray.org>
My client is currently looking for extremely bright developers who have 
a passion for solving complex problems. You will be naturally 
inquisitive and have a logical mind.

Requirements:-

- 3 years experience in an engineering environment using object 
orientated (OO) languages in at least on of the following; C++, PHP, 
Java and with at least one years experience coding database-driven 
applications (preferably MySQL) in PHP using object orientated style.

You will have a degree in computer science or a similar relevant degree 
to at least 2.1 level from a world ranking university.

If you do have the required experience then please forward your cv to 
[I'm not telling you].



So what do we think, people? Given that I have 0 years' experience in an 
engineering environment, and that I have outdated experience with Java 
and minimal experience with C++, so I qualify? (Also - I wonder where on 
the face of the Earth this position *is*?)

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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: A random offer
Date: 14 Feb 2009 12:18:35
Message: <4996fceb@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> - 3 years experience in an engineering environment using object 
> orientated (OO) languages in at least on of the following; C++, PHP, 
> Java and with at least one years experience coding database-driven 
> applications (preferably MySQL) in PHP using object orientated style.

> So what do we think, people? Given that I have 0 years' experience in an 
> engineering environment, and that I have outdated experience with Java 
> and minimal experience with C++, so I qualify? (Also - I wonder where on 
> the face of the Earth this position *is*?)

  Honestly I don't think you qualify for the languages in question (as far
as I know you), but it wouldn't be the first time that people get hired
even though they don't fully qualify...

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From: andrel
Subject: Re: A random offer
Date: 14 Feb 2009 13:50:07
Message: <4997124B.5060000@hotmail.com>
On 14-2-2009 11:50, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> My client is currently looking for extremely bright developers who have 
> a passion for solving complex problems. You will be naturally 
> inquisitive and have a logical mind.
> 
> Requirements:-
> 
> - 3 years experience in an engineering environment using object 
> orientated (OO) languages in at least on of the following; C++, PHP, 
> Java and with at least one years experience coding database-driven 
> applications (preferably MySQL) in PHP using object orientated style.
> 
> You will have a degree in computer science or a similar relevant degree 
> to at least 2.1 level from a world ranking university.
> 
> If you do have the required experience then please forward your cv to 
> [I'm not telling you].

If you don't want to tell because someone here is more qualified and 
might also apply, you're making a mistake. Think again before asking why.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: A random offer
Date: 14 Feb 2009 14:22:33
Message: <499719f9$1@news.povray.org>
On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 10:50:43 +0000, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

> So what do we think, people? Given that I have 0 years' experience in an
> engineering environment, and that I have outdated experience with Java
> and minimal experience with C++, so I qualify? 

Can't hurt to try.  I applied for a similar job once upon a time, and 
while I didn't get the job (because I lacked engineering, Java, and C++ 
experience), a few years later the same guys interviewed me for a job I 
*did* get, and I don't doubt that part of the reason was that they had 
met me already.  In the first interview, they felt I was capable in my 
area of expertise, but the expertise just wasn't what they were looking 
for at the time.

> (Also - I wonder where on
> the face of the Earth this position *is*?)

You could always ask them.....

It might be a virtual office, for that matter - letting you work from 
home.

Jim


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: A random offer
Date: 14 Feb 2009 14:29:01
Message: <49971b7d$1@news.povray.org>
andrel wrote:

> If you don't want to tell because someone here is more qualified and 
> might also apply, you're making a mistake. Think again before asking why.

That's wasn't particularly my reasoning. It's just extranuous 
information for the purposes of this discussion, that's all. ;-)

As to that being a "mistake"... I'm not sure I follow.

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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: A random offer
Date: 14 Feb 2009 14:30:10
Message: <49971bc2$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:

>   Honestly I don't think you qualify for the languages in question (as far
> as I know you), but it wouldn't be the first time that people get hired
> even though they don't fully qualify...

That was more or less my assessment too.

If I can found out where the hell this job is, I might consider 
applying, but I'm probably wasting my time.

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Kevin Wampler
Subject: Re: A random offer
Date: 15 Feb 2009 13:26:34
Message: <49985e5a$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> 
>>   Honestly I don't think you qualify for the languages in question (as 
>> far
>> as I know you), but it wouldn't be the first time that people get hired
>> even though they don't fully qualify...
> 
> That was more or less my assessment too.

I know you're not too fond of the languages, but it might be worthwhile 
to shift your free time programming into something like Java/C++ for a 
while so you can more confidently apply to this sort of job.  Releasing 
some sort of small project written in one of these languages online (or 
contributing in a meaningful way to an existing open-source one) which 
you could point to on a resume couldn't hurt either.


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From: scott
Subject: Re: A random offer
Date: 16 Feb 2009 02:49:19
Message: <49991a7f$1@news.povray.org>
> - 3 years experience in an engineering environment

How many years do you have?

> using object orientated (OO) languages in at least on of the following; 
> C++, PHP, Java

How much experience do you have in C++? PHP? Java?

> and with at least one years experience coding database-driven applications 
> (preferably MySQL) in PHP using object orientated style.

How much experience do you have with this?

> You will have a degree in computer science or a similar relevant degree

Do you have this?

> to at least 2.1 level

Or this?

> from a world ranking university.

Or this?

> So what do we think, people?

Do you meet or almost meet at least 50% of the above?  If so, I would give 
it a shot, but beware at this moment in time there are limited jobs 
available, so I would imagine demand will be quite high.  Do not be 
surprised if you do not hear back.


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: A random offer
Date: 16 Feb 2009 13:44:01
Message: <4999b3f1$1@news.povray.org>
>> - 3 years experience in an engineering environment
> 
> How many years do you have?

0

>> using object orientated (OO) languages in at least on of the 
>> following; C++, PHP, Java
> 
> How much experience do you have in C++? PHP? Java?

I spent several years using Java. I spent a month or so on C++. I've 
never even seen PHP.

>> and with at least one years experience coding database-driven 
>> applications (preferably MySQL) in PHP using object orientated style.
> 
> How much experience do you have with this?

We did some database stuff during my degree. I have no experience with 
PHP or MySQL.

>> You will have a degree in computer science or a similar relevant degree
> 
> Do you have this?

BSc Computer Science, 2:1.

>> to at least 2.1 level
> 
> Or this?

See above.

>> from a world ranking university.
> 
> Or this?

Nope.

>> So what do we think, people?
> 
> Do you meet or almost meet at least 50% of the above?  If so, I would 
> give it a shot, but beware at this moment in time there are limited jobs 
> available, so I would imagine demand will be quite high.  Do not be 
> surprised if you do not hear back.

Well, worth a go I guess...

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: scott
Subject: Re: A random offer
Date: 17 Feb 2009 03:20:19
Message: <499a7343$1@news.povray.org>
> Well, worth a go I guess...

I'd say so!  Given that you already have the super-duper CV prepared it 
can't take that much effort for a chance of significant gain :-)


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