>> The Wikipedia article suggests that it only gives you low-resolution 
>> 16-bit graphics,
> 
> The wikipedia article is incorrect.

*gasp* OMG!

>> and also that only certain OSes work. (E.g., not all
>> flavours of Linux will install.)
> 
> I dunno. I haven't found any flavors of Linux that don't work.

Oh, OK then.

> (Funny enough, I can torrent down the ISO
> faster than I can burn it to a real CD.)

*envy*

I'm currently sucking down KNOPPIX at a rate of about 8 KB/sec. 
Currently 10% done after several hours.

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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> I'm currently sucking down KNOPPIX at a rate of about 8 KB/sec. 
> Currently 10% done after several hours.

Eight minutes, here. ;-)  Of course, you need enough machines in the swarm 
to actually feed you that fast. :-)

I'm trying the "server" version of ubuntu to see if it'll boot. The 
"desktop" version brings up the "what next" menu, and when you hit enter on 
a choice it spins up the CD for a few seconds then comes back to the menu. 
On the 64-bit machine, it spends 5 minutes loading the kernel, then pops up 
a box saying "Boot loader: OK" and when you press enter you're back at the 
main menu again. WTF guys?  If I run across a version of ubuntu that 
actually boots, I'll try it under VirtualPC.

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>> I'm currently sucking down KNOPPIX at a rate of about 8 KB/sec. 
>> Currently 10% done after several hours.
> 
> Eight minutes, here. ;-)

Git.

> Of course, you need enough machines in the 
> swarm to actually feed you that fast. :-)

Well, actually earlier today it was 50 KB/sec. But around about 5 PM it 
suddenly dropped to 8 KB/sec. (As in, there was a sharp line in the 
traffic history.) And it's been setting at exactly 8 KB/sec ever since. 
I almost wonder if my ISP is shaping the traffic...

Also, I'm downloading the *previous* version of KNOPPIX, which possibly 
has a smaller swarm. (Still, it says 14 peers and 228 seeds, you'd 
*think* that's enough...)

> I'm trying the "server" version of ubuntu to see if it'll boot. The 
> "desktop" version brings up the "what next" menu, and when you hit enter 
> on a choice it spins up the CD for a few seconds then comes back to the 
> menu. On the 64-bit machine, it spends 5 minutes loading the kernel, 
> then pops up a box saying "Boot loader: OK" and when you press enter 
> you're back at the main menu again. WTF guys?  If I run across a version 
> of ubuntu that actually boots, I'll try it under VirtualPC.

LOL!

The Real WTF(tm) is how each release of Ubuntu has a stupid name. My 
laptop is running Ubuntu "hardy ferron".

It said there were updates to be installed. I told it to go for it. Took 
about an hour. o_O I was almost wondering if by the time it finished 
some new updates would be available! ;-)

Actually, I just checked. The updater complained it couldn't resolve the 
DNS name of the update server. I tried 3 times; failed each time. (It 
takes *forever*, mind you. For some reason it insists on rebuilding the 
package dependency tree, even though it hasn't changed.) So I pinged the 
update server. Now suddenly the update program sees it. WTF??

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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Well, actually earlier today it was 50 KB/sec. But around about 5 PM it 
> suddenly dropped to 8 KB/sec. (As in, there was a sharp line in the 
> traffic history.) And it's been setting at exactly 8 KB/sec ever since. 
> I almost wonder if my ISP is shaping the traffic...

I think it's also likely that a lot of people have stuff on home machines 
and they set the schedule to let it run all-out when they're at work. I've 
seen the opposite on some torrents, too, where weekends or evenings it'll be 
fast and during the work day it'll be a trickle. Probably the same thing, 
I'd guess, only the other direction.

> LOL!

Server gets a little farther, in both real and VirtualPC, but neither 
actually get to the point where it gives you a prompt you can do something 
with.

> The Real WTF(tm) is how each release of Ubuntu has a stupid name. My 
> laptop is running Ubuntu "hardy ferron".

I know a guy working on a project where the first release was named "Blame 
Canada."  Then it was "Blame Datshunds", then "Blame Egrets" or some such...

> Actually, I just checked. The updater complained it couldn't resolve the 
> DNS name of the update server. I tried 3 times; failed each time. (It 
> takes *forever*, mind you. For some reason it insists on rebuilding the 
> package dependency tree, even though it hasn't changed.) So I pinged the 
> update server. Now suddenly the update program sees it. WTF??

Hey, welcome to open source. :-)

I'm dicking around with Blender right now. You wouldn't believe how ... 
awful it is.  After figuring out that shadows don't work in ray tracing mode 
unless you tell the thing the shadows are casting *onto* that it should pay 
attention to whether things are transparent, I'm now stuck with a piece of 
cloth that will only interact with some objects and not others, even tho the 
other objects are dupicates of the ones it interacts with. WTF mohn?

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>> The Real WTF(tm) is how each release of Ubuntu has a stupid name. My 
>> laptop is running Ubuntu "hardy ferron".
> 
> I know a guy working on a project where the first release was named 
> "Blame Canada."  Then it was "Blame Datshunds", then "Blame Egrets" or 
> some such...

Heh, nice.

>> So I pinged the update server. Now suddenly the update 
>> program sees it. WTF??
> 
> Hey, welcome to open source. :-)

Hmm, yes...

Although at least with most Linux distros, you get the feeling that it's 
more that just one person's hobby project. Too many Haskell things 
really *are* a one-man hobby project! :-/

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Darren New wrote:
> Server gets a little farther, in both real and VirtualPC, but neither 
> actually get to the point where it gives you a prompt you can do 
> something with.

OK. It helps immensely to have a CD without physical errors on it after 
you've burned it. :-) Now it boots fine on real hardware and complains about 
the emulated CD drive on the VirtualPC.  Given that it just booted the boot 
code and install menu off the CD, and given that other Linuxes seem to work 
OK, I'm not sure what Ubuntu is doing that would be a problem. Maybe trying 
to check more types of hardware for greater compatibility, and failing 
because it can't figure out what kind of hardware it is or some such.

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   "Ouch ouch ouch!"
   "What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
   "No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."

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