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On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:02:28 +0000, Invisible <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
>
>Question: How rare is it to get a first?
First-class honours: about 11%
Upper second-class honours: about 45%
Lower second-class honours: about 30%
Third-class honours: about 7.2%
Ordinary degree: around 10% transfer to the Ordinary degree
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_undergraduate_degree_classification
>> True, so stop reading comics online and spending hours playing games. Finish
>> something.
>
>I've tried to do that a couple of times. But... no finished product
>here, eh? :-/
>
Yet?
>>> People here keep trying to tell me I'm an excellent writing and I should
>>> go into technical writing and all this kind of thing.
>>
>> I've not read any of your technical writing only your posts here and I can't
>> comment about that.
>
>Well, Darren and Andrel seem to think I have excellent skills in this
>direction... but as I say, nobody at uni was impressed.
>
I'll take their word over computing "accademics"
>> People don't *delight* in pointing out that you can't spell, they are doing it
>> to help. I can't spell for toffee (I used to get the belt at school every week
>> for my spelling) so I almost always use a spell checker, for everything even
>> this. Appearances are important.
>
>It just seems that every time I post some long and wordy post about
>something, Warp replies with a 1-line reply saying "you spelt that
>wrong". When I've just spent ages writing something, a meta-comment
>about something that is both obvious and irrelevant isn't what I'm
>really seeking.
>
I don't supose you do. So don't give him the opportunity ;)
>I'm just really frustrated and upset right now. Hopefully I'll get over
>it later.
>
Understandable, I'm sure that you will.
>My point is that knowing, rationally, that something is true doesn't
>necessarily help you *believe* it.
Again, true.
>Ever tried rock climbing?
No, I get vertego but I have worked "at height". I've frozen a couple of times,
not nice.
>Sure, I
>*know* that nothing bad can possibly happen to me... but I'm still
>pretty terrified, all the same! o_O
Being brave is feeling scared and still carrying on. (Or is that stupid?) :)
--
Regards
Stephen
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>> Question: How rare is it to get a first?
>
> First-class honours: about 11%
> Upper second-class honours: about 45%
> Lower second-class honours: about 30%
> Third-class honours: about 7.2%
> Ordinary degree: around 10% transfer to the Ordinary degree
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_undergraduate_degree_classification
Hmm, one in ten isn't all that rare I guess. (I was told that something
like 6 people in the whole of the UK get one each year. Clearly this is
not correct. Wikipedia is always right.)
Also... apparently 2:1 is *the* most common ranking.
>> I'm just really frustrated and upset right now. Hopefully I'll get over
>> it later.
>
> Understandable, I'm sure that you will.
Heh, we'll see. I hope so...
>> My point is that knowing, rationally, that something is true doesn't
>> necessarily help you *believe* it.
>
> Again, true.
And that's the problem, right there.
> Being brave is feeling scared and still carrying on. (Or is that stupid?) :)
I guess it depends on whether, rationally, it's a sensible thing to be
doing? :-)
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Invisible wrote:
> And *all* of them targetting graduates with no experience.
I saw a job advertised as needing people capable of designing and
implementing robust, scalable systems capable of high-throughput transaction
processing. Nobody with more than 2 years experience should apply. WTF?
> I don't think any human being even looked at my CV. I think they did an
> automated search of the electronic details I submitted and their
> computer failed to find the magic keyword it was looking for, so they
> sent me an autogenerated rejection email.
I now have a section at the bottom of my resume that lists all the keywords.
Basically, a blob of buzzwords in a section marked "resume search criteria".
I started that when I got rejected for a job that needed knowledge of ISO
protocols and I had listed that I knew the full OSI suite. (Kind of like
getting rejected because you don't know TCP/IP, you only know Internet
protocols.)
> I'm seriously considering either replying to their email or phoning them
> to enquire why they're not interested. I though I'd actually be quite
> useful to them, given what I know and what I'm capable (and motivated)
> of learning.
I would phone them up and ask whether perhaps they've misconfigured their
software to automatically send out rejection notices, and maybe that's why
they're not getting any decent candidates. ;-)
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Why is there a chainsaw in DOOM?
There aren't any trees on Mars.
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Invisible wrote:
> Well, Darren and Andrel seem to think I have excellent skills in this
> direction... but as I say, nobody at uni was impressed.
I wouldn't worry about that. You have better skills than 90% of the people
I've ever dealt with (including the fabulously-more-intelligent-than-me
folks). Especially since you can also understand the technical stuff, too.
> It just seems that every time I post some long and wordy post about
> something, Warp replies with a 1-line reply saying "you spelt that
> wrong". When I've just spent ages writing something, a meta-comment
> about something that is both obvious and irrelevant isn't what I'm
> really seeking.
Look at it this way: Warp read the whole post, cared enough to reply, and
the worst criticism he could make was "you spelled this wrong". ;-)
> I'm just really frustrated and upset right now. Hopefully I'll get over
> it later.
I suggest finding their phone number and calling them up. You may have to
actually call directory assistance to find it. :-)
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Why is there a chainsaw in DOOM?
There aren't any trees on Mars.
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Darren New wrote:
> I would phone them up and ask whether perhaps they've misconfigured
> their software to automatically send out rejection notices, and maybe
> that's why they're not getting any decent candidates. ;-)
Well, it's either that or I get the entire POV-Ray community to start a
hate-mail campaign aainst them until they hire me...
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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On 15-Jan-09 13:53, Stephen wrote:
> I'll take their word over computing "accademics"
See Andy: another one that can not spell.
Sorry,couldn't resist ;)
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On 15-Jan-09 10:21, Invisible wrote:
> On the other hand, maybe I should just face facts and accept that it is
> essentially pointless for me to continue to remain alive.
Then ask yourself this question: how pointless is it to remain dead?
> Maybe I should
> just go throw myself off a tall building and get it over with.
If you even consider suicide do it in style, virtual, on the internet. I
think you should listen to Eric Bogle's The Enigma song. Shall I put it
somewhere for you or mail it somewhere (3.4MB)? I know it is not
strictly legal, but how are you able to let other people listen to
something new?
> Then I
> wouldn't have to put up with this suck-ass job that I hate, surrounded
> by people who don't want me around, being paid peanuts, living in a
> world that is completely indifferent to my pain and misery. Seriously,
> what do I have to live for? Is my world ever going to be better than
> this? 30 years' prior experience suggests "no"...
Strange thing is that you can not judge yourself. You'll have to ask
others.
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On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 09:21:20 +0000, Invisible wrote:
> I'm seriously considering either replying to their email or phoning them
> to enquire why they're not interested. I though I'd actually be quite
> useful to them, given what I know and what I'm capable (and motivated)
> of learning.
Do it. The worst that can happen is they stand by their decision.
You've got nothing to lose by asking, and plenty to gain.
Jim
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On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 09:21:20 +0000, Invisible wrote:
> I'm seriously considering either replying to their email or phoning them
> to enquire why they're not interested. I though I'd actually be quite
> useful to them, given what I know and what I'm capable (and motivated)
> of learning.
Oh, and I should say - good for you FINALLY thinking something positive
about yourself. This type of attitude is a good thing to have!
Jim
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On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:03:30 +0000, Invisible wrote:
> There's a phone number for the sales department, and one for finance,
> and one for marketing, but the one for HR specifically says on it "not
> for job enquiries".
It doesn't say "don't call and ask for the number for job enquiries". So
call and ask who you would talk to for the job enquiry.
Jim
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