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On 04-Nov-08 16:03, nemesis wrote:
> Stephen escreveu:
>> Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>>> scott wrote:
>>>>> Heh. Imagine going to school and learning about "Dave's forces" or
>>>>> "Bob's law". Wouldn't be quite the same as van der Waals forces and
>>>>> Hooke's law, would it?
>>>> Hooke was English.
>>> ...really?
>>
>> As was Lord Kelvin, Napier, Stephen Hawkins (Well British)
>>
>>
>>> Heh. You learn something every day.
>>>
>>> Did you see the episode of Who Wants To Be A Millionaire? where 3% of
>>> the audience thought that "Ludwig van Beethoven" was English? :-D (I
>>> have no idea what his nationallity actually was, but I'm fairly sure
>>> it's not a typical English name...)
>>>
>>
>> German! O_O
>>
>> They (3%) must have been confusing him with Handel who lived in
>> England and
>> composed Messiah, Zadok the Priest and Music for the Royal Fireworks
>> there.
>
> "Ludwig" by itself should be enough. :)
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On 04-Nov-08 11:27, Invisible wrote:
> scott wrote:
>>> Is there any specific reason why all great mathematicians were foreign?
>>
>> Because 99% of the people in the world are foreign for you?
>
> Mmm. Yes, that must be it...
>
>> I can think of Newton, Babbage, Turing and Darwin off the top of my
>> head as very famous British scientists/mathematicians, I am sure there
>> are many many more.
>
> Heh. Imagine going to school and learning about "Dave's forces" or
> "Bob's law". Wouldn't be quite the same as van der Waals forces and
> Hooke's law, would it?
First names of van der waals were: Johannes Diderik so if they followed
your convention it might have been Johan's law (or Jan's or Diderik or
Rik, I don't know what his family called him). Aside I studied in
Amsterdam and had lectures in the room they built for him there. A
theater with the names of famous physicist in friezes (if that is the
correct term) on the wall. Like we have the famous composers in the
Concertgebouw.
They also had the foundation of the workshop there separately from the
rest of the foundations. Just to make sure they did not ruin the
experiments.
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On 04-Nov-08 11:27, Invisible wrote:
> scott wrote:
>>> Is there any specific reason why all great mathematicians were foreign?
>>
>> Because 99% of the people in the world are foreign for you?
>
> Mmm. Yes, that must be it...
>
>> I can think of Newton, Babbage, Turing and Darwin off the top of my
>> head as very famous British scientists/mathematicians, I am sure there
>> are many many more.
>
> Heh. Imagine going to school and learning about "Dave's forces" or
> "Bob's law". Wouldn't be quite the same as van der Waals forces and
> Hooke's law, would it?
Once someone remarked that in French all laws are names after the first
French person to have discovered the law. Sometimes decades after it was
discovered in the rest of the world. (If you think that is silly, think
about things like Victoria Falls).
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>>> I prefer Cole's Law myself. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>> Groan!
>>
>> I couldn't help myself. :-) Or rather, I could, if there was a container
>> in the fridge.
>
> Ignorance is bliss...
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cole's_Law
I didn't know it either. Now Cole's Law on the "Murphy's Law and other
reasons why things go wrong" book makes sense.
"Cole's Law: Thinly sliced cabbage."
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andrel wrote:
> theater with the names of famous physicist in friezes (if that is the
Reminds me of one of the first places I worked: Institute for Scientific
Information. (Sort of a Google of the CP/M era.) Founded by Eugene
Garfield.
Walking up the stairway, there was a moasic portrait of Aristotle on the
first floor, Newton on the second floor, Einstein on the third floor,
and Garfield on the fourth floor. Cripes. :-)
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
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andrel wrote:
> about things like Victoria Falls).
I like going to the zoo in the USA, where you can see which animals were
discovered by the British and which by the Americans just by looking at
their names.
"Sir George's Antelope." "Lord Franken's Turtle."
"Red Neck Duck." "Blue Belly Warbler."
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
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Invisible wrote:
> Carl Friedrich Gauss.
>
> Damn. Apparently it's /ˈɡaʊs/. I always thought it was /ɡʊərs/.
>
> Oh well - apparently I've been saying it wrong all these years...
>
> Is there any specific reason why all great mathematicians were foreign?
That's because every nation is a minority of the world, and therefore
most mathematicians are foreign.
And before 1776, all great mathematicians were foreign to the US because
there was no US. This probably doesn't help your situation.
I recall reading somewhere, however, that the great work of math is
still in progress. There remain a large number of unsolved,
long-standing problems in math, and some of the frontiers of theoretical
physics are presently at a standstill because the necessary math hasn't
been developed yet.
Regards,
John
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John VanSickle wrote:
> That's because every nation is a minority of the world, and therefore
> most mathematicians are foreign.
This doesn't mathematically follow unless you assume a sufficiently flat
distribution of mathematicians. Since intellectuals tend to like hanging
around their peers, this tends not to happen.
Check out, for example, the number of Chinese Nobel prize winners vs USA
Nobel prize winners. Not because Chinese aren't smart, but because the
scientists from all over the world often come to the USA to do their
thing, even if they're "foreign". (Or at least used to, a few decades
ago, before we started thinking stupidity was a virtue.)
> I recall reading somewhere, however, that the great work of math is
> still in progress. There remain a large number of unsolved,
> long-standing problems in math, and some of the frontiers of theoretical
> physics are presently at a standstill because the necessary math hasn't
> been developed yet.
Well... maybe. :-) Lots of stuff is hard to calculate, even tho the math
is, in theory, pretty simple.
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
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andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
No but George Fredrick Handle does :)
Remember since Q Vic married Alfred German names were popular here (or there :)
Stephen
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andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> On 04-Nov-08 16:03, nemesis wrote:
> > Stephen escreveu:
> >> Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> >>> Did you see the episode of Who Wants To Be A Millionaire? where 3% of
> >>> the audience thought that "Ludwig van Beethoven" was English? :-D (I
> >>> have no idea what his nationallity actually was, but I'm fairly sure
> >>> it's not a typical English name...)
> >>>
> >>
> >> German! O_O
> >>
> >> They (3%) must have been confusing him with Handel who lived in
> >> England and
> >> composed Messiah, Zadok the Priest and Music for the Royal Fireworks
> >> there.
> >
> > "Ludwig" by itself should be enough. :)
>
Why should it?
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