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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: How do you sort your closet?
Date: 2 Jul 2008 07:47:51
Message: <486b6ae7$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:

> It's sounding very much like my gf too...
> 
> My hobby: Rotating things by a non-multiple of 90 degrees

Ah. It's time to tell my tale of the rooster plates. You see, back when 
we got married, my wife and I decided we'd build a kitchen theme around 
an old napkin holder handed down from her great grandmother. So, the 
rooster theme was born. Our kitchen and dining areas are all roosters. 
Anyway, we have these nice plates with (you guessed it) various breeds 
of rooster on them. If I carelessly set down my plate wrongly oriented, 
she goes berserk. The chicken must be right-side-up to me. So, I have 
now taken to purposefully placing my plate in various "wrong" positions. 
Most of the time she notices. I'm thinking of performing psychological 
experiments next: Increment the orientation of the plate by a few 
degrees each day, to find out what her threshold is ...


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: How do you sort your closet?
Date: 2 Jul 2008 07:52:16
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Phil Cook wrote:

> 
> Hmm it's like at the supermarket check-out I arrange the items to come 
> through the till in the same order I want to pack them I don't 
> understand people who just tip everything out.
> 

Ahh. I play a game of Supermarket Tetris as I unload. Fitting items as 
they come out as tightly together as I can. I can usually get the entire 
belt loaded in half the space as most people. Usually completely 
unloaded before the person in front of me has completed their transaction.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: How do you sort your closet?
Date: 2 Jul 2008 08:04:15
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Mike Raiford wrote:

> I'm thinking of performing psychological 
> experiments next: Increment the orientation of the plate by a few 
> degrees each day, to find out what her threshold is ...

...and people tell me *I'm* strange! ;-)

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From: Phil Cook
Subject: Re: How do you sort your closet?
Date: 2 Jul 2008 09:10:38
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And lo on Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:52:26 +0100, Mike Raiford  
<mra### [at] hotmailcom> did spake, saying:

> Phil Cook wrote:
>
>>  Hmm it's like at the supermarket check-out I arrange the items to come  
>> through the till in the same order I want to pack them I don't  
>> understand people who just tip everything out.
>
> Ahh. I play a game of Supermarket Tetris as I unload. Fitting items as  
> they come out as tightly together as I can. I can usually get the entire  
> belt loaded in half the space as most people. Usually completely  
> unloaded before the person in front of me has completed their  
> transaction.

Oh yes that too of course, though it's subordinate to the packing rule.

-- 
Phil Cook

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I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
http://flipc.blogspot.com


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From: Phil Cook
Subject: Re: How do you sort your closet?
Date: 2 Jul 2008 09:22:17
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And lo on Wed, 02 Jul 2008 12:48:00 +0100, Mike Raiford  
<mra### [at] hotmailcom> did spake, saying:

> scott wrote:
>
>> It's sounding very much like my gf too...
>>  My hobby: Rotating things by a non-multiple of 90 degrees
>
> Anyway, we have these nice plates with (you guessed it) various breeds  
> of rooster on them. If I carelessly set down my plate wrongly oriented,  
> she goes berserk. The chicken must be right-side-up to me.

Sad to say I see nothing wrong in your wife's attitude. Now I can make an  
argument that the 'correct' position may also, depending on design, be  
180° away from you and thus right-side-up to your opposite number... sigh  
yes I am the type of person who wants to straighten frames in receptions,  
it just itches to see them like that... okay, okay I also tidy up the  
magazines too; happy now?

cue another "and people tell me *I'm* strange" :-)

> So, I have now taken to purposefully placing my plate in various "wrong"  
> positions. Most of the time she notices. I'm thinking of performing  
> psychological experiments next: Increment the orientation of the plate  
> by a few degrees each day, to find out what her threshold is ...

Monster! :-P

-- 
Phil Cook

--
I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
http://flipc.blogspot.com


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: How do you sort your closet?
Date: 2 Jul 2008 10:25:37
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Phil Cook wrote:

> Sad to say I see nothing wrong in your wife's attitude. Now I can make 
> an argument that the 'correct' position may also, depending on design, 
> be 180° away from you and thus right-side-up to your opposite number... 
> sigh yes I am the type of person who wants to straighten frames in 
> receptions, it just itches to see them like that... okay, okay I also 
> tidy up the magazines too; happy now?

Gaah!

Man, I thought *I* was type-a for organizing my son's chain thingy toy 
in hue order.

But the plates are another matter. I'm sitting down for a quick lunch, 
maybe a sandwich and chips (crisps for you British folk) on a plate. I'm 
not going to care what direction the art points.

I've threatened to replace the plates with omnidirectional ones.

>> So, I have now taken to purposefully placing my plate in various 
>> "wrong" positions. Most of the time she notices. I'm thinking of 
>> performing psychological experiments next: Increment the orientation 
>> of the plate by a few degrees each day, to find out what her threshold 
>> is ...
> 
> Monster! :-P
> 

Heh heh... >:-)


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From: Phil Cook
Subject: Re: How do you sort your closet?
Date: 2 Jul 2008 11:24:28
Message: <op.udn7mkrsc3xi7v@news.povray.org>
And lo on Wed, 02 Jul 2008 15:25:46 +0100, Mike Raiford  
<mra### [at] hotmailcom> did spake, saying:

> Phil Cook wrote:
>
>> Sad to say I see nothing wrong in your wife's attitude. Now I can make  
>> an argument that the 'correct' position may also, depending on design,  
>> be 180° away from you and thus right-side-up to your opposite number...  
>> sigh yes I am the type of person who wants to straighten frames in  
>> receptions, it just itches to see them like that... okay, okay I also  
>> tidy up the magazines too; happy now?
>
> Gaah!
>
> Man, I thought *I* was type-a for organizing my son's chain thingy toy  
> in hue order.

Why wouldn't it be hue-order to start with? If it's what I think it is (or  
close to  it) I'm trying to imagine one that isn't and urgh no that's just  
wrong.

> But the plates are another matter. I'm sitting down for a quick lunch,  
> maybe a sandwich and chips (crisps for you British folk) on a plate. I'm  
> not going to care what direction the art points.
>
> I've threatened to replace the plates with omnidirectional ones.

Heh I already have ones with a symmetrical pattern... the mats they sit on  
however are directional :-)

-- 
Phil Cook

--
I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
http://flipc.blogspot.com


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: How do you sort your closet?
Date: 2 Jul 2008 13:02:23
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
> 
>> My brother puts all the spoons in one bucket in the dishwasher, all 
>> the forks in another, etc, so he doesn't have to sort the utensils. 
>> (Since I can empty the whole dishwasher in the time it takes to 
>> re-nuke a cup of coffee, I don't really see the savings there.)
> 
> Hmm. Sort the items in insertion. Sort the items on removal. Sounds like 
> both algorithms should be of equal time complexity...

The difference is that it takes no additional time to sort them on 
insertion, because they're already spread out and unsorted. During 
insertion, you have to insert them one at a time because they're 
physically spread out. During removal, they're all in the dishwasher 
basket, going to all in the drawer.

Like, do you defrag the disk before you copy everything to a new disk, 
or after?  If before, you only thrash the head around once.

>> On the other hand, I have two colors of socks: light and dark. When 
>> they were out, I buy 20+ pairs of new socks all the same and use them 
>> until too many wear out. I haven't sorted socks since high school.
> 
> I could go for that.

I think I'm just still scarred from my experiences as a child, wherein I 
would have to sort socks that were like 6 different shades of navy blue, 
plus dark brown, dark grey, darker grey, black, mildly faded black, etc. :-)

> then we buy *one* pair. WTF? Why don't we just buy, say, 15 identical 
> pairs? That way I wouldn't keep running out of trousers to wear!

Same here, except usually I only manage to find one in the pile.

-- 
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
  Helpful housekeeping hints:
   Check your feather pillows for holes
    before putting them in the washing machine.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: How do you sort your closet?
Date: 2 Jul 2008 13:03:12
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Kyle wrote:
> Her sort order is likely based upon which ten items she will try on during the two
hour that she is getting ready to go somewhere.  That seems to be the way my wife does
it, best I can tell.

LOL!  So true, so true.

-- 
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
  Helpful housekeeping hints:
   Check your feather pillows for holes
    before putting them in the washing machine.


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: How do you sort your closet?
Date: 2 Jul 2008 15:17:25
Message: <486bd445$1@news.povray.org>
Phil Cook wrote:

> 
> Why wouldn't it be hue-order to start with? If it's what I think it is 
> (or close to  it) I'm trying to imagine one that isn't and urgh no 
> that's just wrong.
> 

Baby plays with toy, mom hooks them together after they get separated 
and scattered ... generally in an effort to keep everything together but 
work quickly..

My wife gave me very strange looks when I started doing the Towers of 
Hanoi problem with his stacking cups (Which, by the way, are ideal for that)


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