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scott wrote:
>> Damn, now I remember why I usually stick with vector graphics! (But
>> then of course you have to spend countless hours playing with Beizer
>> curves which never ever look quite how you want them to...)
>
> Try scanning in your hand-drawn work and fitting the beziers over the top.
The endless *hours* I've spent fighting with Inkscape trying to make the
curves look smooth though... It's really very hard indeed to make the
curves completely smooth. Even after tuning all the control handles for
ages you can still see where the control points are. :-(
[ Oh yeah, and my mum's scanner isn't working yet. ;-) ]
>> Either way, I can't even draw *lines* as nicely as Tim does!
>
> What tool are you using in the GIMP?
Pencil tool.
> In most art programs you get some
> sort of smoothed line tool that smooths out the lines you draw with the
> mouse. Even in MS PowerPoint you get a freehand tool that smooths out
> squiggly lines you draw with the mouse - you could use that then
> screenshot and import to GIMP for further processing.
Yeah, maybe.
Perhaps I'll try Photoshop Elements tonight...
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>> I also had a go at drawing some stuff with the GIMP. But the problem I
>> instantly ran into is that drawing with a mouse is virutally impossible.
>> The lines are all disgustingly wobbly and uneven.
>
> That's why people use graphics tablets...
Yeah, figures...
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Invisible wrote:
> The endless *hours* I've spent fighting with Inkscape trying to make the
> curves look smooth though... It's really very hard indeed to make the
> curves completely smooth. Even after tuning all the control handles for
> ages you can still see where the control points are. :-(
Works for me. In fact, I just had a quick fiddle and it took me several
attempts to actually get a clearly visible 'corner' in the curve. The
default behaviour appears to be a properly smoothed node, no visible
corners at all.
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On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:46:56 +0000, Invisible wrote:
> I wonder
> whether this is related to me using a £5 optical mouse and Tim using a
> $2,000 graphics tablet,
That one.
Jim
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Warp <war### [at] tag povrayorg> wrote:
> That's why people use graphics tablets...
>
> (Although using a very large resolution and zooming in can help a bit.)
>
> --
> - Warp
Drawing with a graphics tablet is funky; takes getting used to. Some people
compare it to drawing on glass, so they slip a piece of paper on top of the
tablet so they can get the same "feel". I'm finally to the point where I trust
myself enough with it to draw inbetweens. Still not there yet for a generic
sketching tool (probably gonna stick with paper and pencils for that, at least
for the foreseeable future). And I've found inking on top of pencil drawings
is easier if I use the mouse. Don't ask me why...
--
Dan
GoofyGraffix.com
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Invisible wrote:
> Nope, it's no good. I ph413. I simply can't get that mouth shape
> correct. It's too crazy... Attempt #2 looks *vaguely* reminiscent of
> him, but the others are just nowhere near.
I WANNA SEE!!! :D
>
> *throws paper away*
>
No, don't throw away. I posted my lame attempt at drawing.
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Mike Raiford wrote:
> Invisible wrote:
>
>> Nope, it's no good. I ph413. I simply can't get that mouth shape
>> correct. It's too crazy... Attempt #2 looks *vaguely* reminiscent of
>> him, but the others are just nowhere near.
>
> I WANNA SEE!!! :D
>
>>
>> *throws paper away*
>>
>
> No, don't throw away. I posted my lame attempt at drawing.
Look, it sucked, OK? (And I'm not supposed to my using the PostIt(tm)
notes on my desk for drawing cartoon characters during work hours.) Just
assume you already saw it and start with the pointing and the laughing...
...OMG! I just had an idea. Damn it, I could make a comic about
povray.off-topic! o_O Let's face it, some pretty amusing stuff happens
round here. And I'm at least as weird as Ethan while still being a real
person... my God, we could make millions!
Oh, wait. Yah, I still can't draw yet... :-S
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you know, the Gimp and Photoshop are not really well suited for
"drawing". That work Gilles posted had its forms drawn in Adobe
Illustrator -- a vector package -- and then exported and composed and
texturized in Photoshop.
Inkscape has an excellent drawing tool: the calligraphic pen. Using
it, I don't feel all that urge for a tablet.
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Invisible wrote:
> scott wrote:
>> Try scanning in your hand-drawn work and fitting the beziers over the
>> top.
>
> The endless *hours* I've spent fighting with Inkscape trying to make the
> curves look smooth though... It's really very hard indeed to make the
> curves completely smooth. Even after tuning all the control handles for
> ages you can still see where the control points are. :-(
if you're scanning, why not simply trace the bitmap and go from there on?
If you're drawing on inkscape, though, try these settings with the
calligraphic lines tool:
width: 12 thinning: -0.14 angle: 45+ fixation: 0.85 caps: 0.75
the calligraphic tool is sort of a blend between a free-hand pen tool
out given your chosen settings. It's very good for a cartoonish style...
You can also have a lot of fun by playing with the wiggle and tremor
parameters... :)
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> The endless *hours* I've spent fighting with Inkscape trying to make the
> curves look smooth though... It's really very hard indeed to make the
> curves completely smooth. Even after tuning all the control handles for
> ages you can still see where the control points are. :-(
I've not used Inkscape much, but there must be some option to set the corner
points to "smooth" which constrains the bezier control points so that the
join is smooth. If you really want to have a sharp corner, then you can set
it to "corner" so that you can adjust the control points independantly.
> Perhaps I'll try Photoshop Elements tonight...
Or give PaintShopPro a try too, if you can't get along with PSE.
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