Phil Cook wrote:
> standing', 'Yeah run around him and press that concealed switch to turn 
> off the invincibilty shield', 'How the hell I was I supposed to know that?'

Yeah, like in Half-Life, where some of the bosses can't be damaged 
except at certain times, and there's no indication of that.

At least in Undying, it's part of the story that the bosses are 
invulnerable to certain things. You could almost deduce what you needed 
to do.


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Invisible wrote:
> [Now Benny has one of those 1337 game keyboard with 40+ extra keys that 
> are programmable on a per-game basis to do whatever you want. Hmm...]

The one I liked was the one where the keys were (I think) RF-driven, and 
just post-it stickied to the keyboard wherever you wanted them, so you 
could space them exactly how you wanted.

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Invisible wrote:
> [Honestly, no matter how many zombies I killed, there always seemed to 
> be more of them... 

Isn't that kind of the point of zombies? :-)

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In article <47a533e4$1@news.povray.org>, Sabrina Kilian <"ykgp at 
vtSPAM.edu"> says...
> Patrick Elliott wrote:
> > In article <47a4c525$1@news.povray.org>, Sabrina Kilian <"ykgp at 
> > vtSPAM.edu"> says...
> >> Orchid XP v7 wrote:
> >>>>> I *still* haven't completed HL2:EP2 yet because it's too hard
> >>>>   It's not that hard. Destroy the hunters, then the strider, save.
> >>>> Go to the next strider and repeat.
> >>> It's the "destroy the hunters" part that I can't pull off. They're
> >>> almost indestructible. I mean, I managed to kill one of them, but now
 I
> >>> have almost no ammo left at all. I used all of it to kill just one hu
nter!
> >>>
> >> After beating it, I learned that hunters have a vulnerability to
> >> automobile tires moving at around 45mph / 72kph.
> >>
> >> First time through, I spent all the shotgun ammo on the first few
> >> hunters, then switched between the crossbow and any grenade/rocket on
> >> hand. That took more saves and restarts then I care to admit.
> >>
> > Wait... The hunters in 2 don't have the vulnerability where you can 
> > shoot them in the back to kill them? Useful when you have sniper rifle.
 
> > ;) But seriously, at least in Halo 1, they have *no* armor at all in th
e 
> > lower back, where you can see a patch of orange, sort of V shaped. Mind
 
> > you, haven't played 2, since a) I don't have an XBox and b) I don't hav
e 
> > fracking Vista. :p
> > 
> 
> Half-life 2 != Halo 2.
> 
Bah.. This is why I hate bloody acronyms... Dang people use them all the 
time in EQ2 too. Some dude goes, "I need an XYZ for a rain in GFG!", and 
all I can think is, "Why the heck do you expect 90% of the people 
playing to understand that?" lol

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Warp wrote:
> Phil Cook <phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote:
>>> 4. OMG, how do you *play* with only 3 buttons??
> 
>> Assuming you're vaguely serious I've got 14 buttons plus two analogue  
>> joysticks, that's a standard pad.
> 
>   FPS games cannot be played with a game controller. It's like trying to
> play with the keyboard only (no, the analog joysticks don't make it any
> easier, they actually make it harder). It's a royal pain in the ass.
> 
> http://warp.povusers.org/grrr/consolefps.html
> 

And yet, UT3 has sold 10x the number of units on the PS3 as on the PC...

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Darren New wrote:
> Phil Cook wrote:
>> standing', 'Yeah run around him and press that concealed switch to 
>> turn off the invincibilty shield', 'How the hell I was I supposed to 
>> know that?'
> 
> Yeah, like in Half-Life, where some of the bosses can't be damaged 
> except at certain times, and there's no indication of that.
> 
> At least in Undying, it's part of the story that the bosses are 
> invulnerable to certain things. You could almost deduce what you needed 
> to do.
> 
> 

Yeah, but in Deus Ex, the Bosses were just regular guys!

I had a habit of killing them before they even tried to talk to me :) 
There weren't that many that were scripted as invulnerable!

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Chambers wrote:
> Yeah, but in Deus Ex, the Bosses were just regular guys!

As much as anyone in that game was "regular", yah.

> I had a habit of killing them before they even tried to talk to me :) 

Better to get the drop on you.

> There weren't that many that were scripted as invulnerable!

Those that were made it pretty obvious, with the glowing force-fields 
and such. Oh, I guess some characters were invulnerable if killing them 
would mess up the story at that point, but you found out that by dying 
for no reason when you attacked them.


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Phil Cook <phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote:
> >   Stop talking about "it seems impossible", and just do it, because
> > it's not impossible.

> Just annoying, repetitive and boring. Hey look it's a Strider, oo and  
> another, and another, and another, and another, and another, and another,  
> and another, and oh wait we're done. Nope silly me here's another Strider,  
> and another, and another, and another, and another. Gee wasn't that fun?

  That doesn't make what I said any less true.

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Patrick Elliott <sel### [at] rraznet> wrote:
> Bah.. This is why I hate bloody acronyms...

  I don't see how "HL" would be an acronym for "Halo".

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And lo on Tue, 05 Feb 2008 06:18:08 -0000, Chambers  
<ben### [at] pacificwebguycom> did spake, saying:

> Warp wrote:
>> Phil Cook <phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote:
>>>> 4. OMG, how do you *play* with only 3 buttons??
>>
>>> Assuming you're vaguely serious I've got 14 buttons plus two analogue   
>>> joysticks, that's a standard pad.
>>    FPS games cannot be played with a game controller. It's like trying  
>> to
>> play with the keyboard only (no, the analog joysticks don't make it any
>> easier, they actually make it harder). It's a royal pain in the ass.
>>  http://warp.povusers.org/grrr/consolefps.html
>>
>
> And yet, UT3 has sold 10x the number of units on the PS3 as on the PC...

But IIRC you can use a keyboard/mouse with UT3.

That's not the point though

 From Warp's link

"You want to quickly look to the right and then to the left to see if  
there's anyone there. Additionally you want to quickly also look back the  
way you came to see that you have not been followed. With a mouse this can  
be done really fast, in under 1 second. With a game controller (or  
keyboard) it takes a horrendous amount of time."

I agree a 180 is slower (note though that even some PC games had a quick  
180 button), but looking left/right is just as quick as a mouse. Again I  
agree aiming at something small (or at a distance) is trickier then with a  
mouse.

Besides the sluggish aim actaully makes it more realistic, take using a  
sniper rifle in Killzone for the PS2. The more you zoom in the more small  
movements of the stick translate into large alterations, the sight also  
moves slightly in game to simulate the person's own movements.

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