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From: Tim Cook
Subject: Alcohol.
Date: 13 Nov 2007 01:38:06
Message: <4739464e$1@news.povray.org>
So I just got back from being taken to a bar by housemate.  My first 
encounter with "drinking".  The initial drink was a shot of Jaeger, vile 
licorice-plus-rubbing-alcohol tasting thing, which the bartender paid 
for on the condition that I actually down the shot...followed up by 
another half-dozen various mixed drinks concocted by a very attractive 
gal (one of the drinks, with tequila, I couldn't even tolerate more than 
a sip, to entice me she held the orange slice in her mouth, but even 
then it wasn't sufficient to get me to do the whole thing).  Ended up 
only being charged $7 and change; apparently she footed the bill for 
most of it because it was my first time.

Personal reactions: the initial sensation when the alcohol first hit my 
body, as it's rather...unique, then immediately thereafter when a sort 
of warm shuddering hit my muscles, particularly arms, stomach and back, 
then quite a bit later, which is where I stopped drinking, when I 
started feeling a kind of dull lethargy that was my body beginning to 
process the stuff.  So as far as I can tell, I left the bar sober. 
Housemate was complaining that I'm too uptight, that I'm thinking about 
it too much and killing the buzz, that I need to relax...

Meh.

-- 
Tim Cook
http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-empyrean

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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Alcohol.
Date: 13 Nov 2007 04:22:34
Message: <47396cda@news.povray.org>
I asked several people what being drunk feels like. Without exception, 
they all replied with "er... I can't really remember". Sounds like a 
great way to expend vast sums of money to me! :-.

I've never been drunk. I think. I don't know - I did once sit down and 
drink several glasses of Archers. Eventually I reached the point where 
it *felt* like I couldn't walk - although in fact I could, without much 
difficulty. For some reason, this was extremely humourus. I'm not sure why.

When I reported this, somebody said to me "Invisi mate... Drinking is 
like sex. It's fun by yourself, but it's *so* much better with other 
people." He didn't specify how many "other people" he had in mind...


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Alcohol.
Date: 13 Nov 2007 06:06:50
Message: <4739854a$1@news.povray.org>
> I asked several people what being drunk feels like.
...
> Eventually I reached the point where it *felt* like I couldn't walk - 
> although in fact I could, without much difficulty. For some reason, this 
> was extremely humourus.

Hehe good explanation.  BTW, you *thought* you could walk ok without much 
difficultly, that doesn't mean you actually could :-)

> When I reported this, somebody said to me "Invisi mate... Drinking is like 
> sex. It's fun by yourself, but it's *so* much better with other people." 
> He didn't specify how many "other people" he had in mind...

Yup, getting drunk by yourself is a bit pointless, the atmosphere and the 
company contributes just as much to you having fun as the alcohol actually 
does.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Alcohol.
Date: 13 Nov 2007 08:23:27
Message: <4739a54f$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
>> I asked several people what being drunk feels like.
> ...
>> Eventually I reached the point where it *felt* like I couldn't walk - 
>> although in fact I could, without much difficulty. For some reason, 
>> this was extremely humourus.
> 
> Hehe good explanation.  BTW, you *thought* you could walk ok without 
> much difficultly, that doesn't mean you actually could :-)

No, I *felt* like I couldn't walk, so I got up and tried it, and managed 
to walk around the house without any actual difficulty other than 
feeling kinda weird. I didn't fall over or walk into anything, it just 
felt like I was going to...

>> When I reported this, somebody said to me "Invisi mate... Drinking is 
>> like sex. It's fun by yourself, but it's *so* much better with other 
>> people." He didn't specify how many "other people" he had in mind...
> 
> Yup, getting drunk by yourself is a bit pointless, the atmosphere and 
> the company contributes just as much to you having fun as the alcohol 
> actually does.

The way I see it, drinking is more of a spectator sport. It's fun to 
watch everyone *else* get drunk while you stay sober. (It also gives you 
opportunities for blackmail...)


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From: Jeremy M  Praay
Subject: Re: Alcohol.
Date: 13 Nov 2007 08:36:33
Message: <4739a861$1@news.povray.org>
"Tim Cook" <z99### [at] bellsouthnet> wrote in message 
news:4739464e$1@news.povray.org...
> So I just got back from being taken to a bar by housemate.  My first 
> encounter with "drinking".

I have a friend at work with whom I've taken many business trips and 
non-business trips.  He's a drinker.  I'm not.  I've found that alcohol is 
not my thing.  That's probably a good thing.  But I'll still go out every 
now and then and have a couple of drinks.  Two or three drinks is enough to 
get me to relax and be friendly.  Any more than that, and I start getting 
sleepy.  8 or 10 and I'm probably going to puke at some point.


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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Alcohol.
Date: 13 Nov 2007 10:35:10
Message: <4739c42e@news.povray.org>
"Invisible" wrote:
> For some reason, this was extremely humourus. I'm not sure why.

Um, that would be because you were drunk. It lowers the threshold of fun 
(sometimes).

Rune


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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Alcohol.
Date: 13 Nov 2007 10:44:08
Message: <4739c648$1@news.povray.org>
"Invisible" wrote:
> The way I see it, drinking is more of a spectator sport. It's fun to watch 
> everyone *else* get drunk while you stay sober.

Hmm, I often find the opposite to be true. When you're completely sober 
among rather drunk people, they keep finding things funny that are not, and 
they're rarely sensitive to the fact that you're not finding it as fun as 
they are. It can be rather lonely. It depends a lot on the specific 
situation though, but generally, it feels better to be drunk together with 
them, and thus be able to join in on the fun to a higher degree.

> (It also gives you opportunities for blackmail...)

You don't need to stay sober for that, as long as you don't get so drunk 
that
a) you do blackmailable things yourself,
and b) you get a black-out so you can't remember what others did.

Rune


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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Alcohol.
Date: 13 Nov 2007 10:47:13
Message: <4739c701$1@news.povray.org>
"Jeremy M. Praay" wrote:
> I've found that alcohol is not my thing.

> Two or three drinks is enough to get me to relax and be friendly.

If you find that two to three drinks have a desirable effect on you, why do 
you say that alcohol is not your thing? It sounds more like heavy drinking 
is not your thing. :)

Rune


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Alcohol.
Date: 13 Nov 2007 11:20:01
Message: <web.4739cdfce392abcb726bd13c0@news.povray.org>
"Rune" <aut### [at] runevisioncom> wrote:
> "Jeremy M. Praay" wrote:
> > I've found that alcohol is not my thing.
>
> > Two or three drinks is enough to get me to relax and be friendly.
>
> If you find that two to three drinks have a desirable effect on you, why do
> you say that alcohol is not your thing? It sounds more like heavy drinking
> is not your thing. :)
>
> Rune

It is not just drinking alcohol, there is the culture that goes with it. It

lot with little short term effect. The long term effect can be quite disastrous
as we all know. The British drinking culture is not the best in the world. 10
pints and a good puke :)

Stephen


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Alcohol.
Date: 13 Nov 2007 11:36:37
Message: <4739d295@news.povray.org>
Stephen wrote:

> It is not just drinking alcohol, there is the culture that goes with it. It

> lot with little short term effect. The long term effect can be quite disastrous
> as we all know. The British drinking culture is not the best in the world. 10
> pints and a good puke :)

As exemplified by that girl I saw on TV. I don't know what the hell my 
mother was watching - some documentary or other. I just walked past the 
TV. This girl comes out of the toilets and goes "woohoo! I've just been 
sick! Now I can drink some more!"

At this point, I'm standing there just thinking "dude, WTF?"


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