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Darren New <dne### [at] san rrcom> wrote:
> Do you have a cite for this?
Google?
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Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Do you have a cite for this?
>
> Google?
>
Googling on the obvious "hotmail freebsd" pair brings up articles from
2001 saying MS still uses FreeBSD, and articles from 2000 where MS
outlines how they will upgrade it. Considering they never took the
system down during the upgrade, it was all C++, and they had limited
staff *and* the stuff that was hard to scale out (naming services,
database) was already running on NT, taking 4 years to move entirely
from FreeBSD to Win2K doesn't seem that odd to me.
I was wondering if you had any information about the 2001 upgrade that
was more recent than, say, 2001? Since it *is* six years later, it's
kind of silly to continue to say "Hotmail still runs BSD" without any
additional information?
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Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
Remember the good old days, when we
used to complain about cryptography
being export-restricted?
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Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Stephen wrote:
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> > Just wait until Word 2099 and then it will fix whats wrong before you can ask it
> > :)
>
> What, like this?
Yes, is it a Beta?
LOL
Stephen
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> I have for long wondered why companies are so eager to tie their vital
> documents to a closed proprietary format owned by one company who has sole
> control on when and how the format is supported.
Well if worst comes to worst, you just don't install the newer version of
the software. Anyway I don't think MS would last long if their latest
version of Word didn't allow imports from previous versions - I wouldn't
worry.
And if worst comes to absolute worse (like Word2009 only allows you to open
Word2009 files and nothing else) then you'd probably stick with Word2008
until MS released an update (along with every other company in the world) or
start using OpenOffice (which someone would no doubt have written a very
good Word2008 importer for).
The bottom line is the benefits of using MS Office far outweigh any risk of
all your documents suddenly becoming unusable.
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"Orchid XP v7" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote
> how to use styles in that either. (At least, not very reliably.) I
> wanted to be able to say "haha, Word sucks, OOW is better", but I can't
> because it's not true. Is that bais?
No, but it's bias. All software has bugs, is suboptimal, often bloated...
etc. I have yet to find a perfect software. Word processing is a very broad
task, it's guaranteed than some of the users will be unhappy. That neither
OO, TeX or anybody else got it "right" should tell you that it's not just
MS's fault. To top it off, often, there's a big major dilemma between
maintaining backwards compatibility and doing it right.
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scott <sco### [at] laptopcom> wrote:
> benefits of using MS Office
What benefits would those be?
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scott nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2007/11/07 03:16:
>> I have for long wondered why companies are so eager to tie their vital
>> documents to a closed proprietary format owned by one company who has
>> sole
>> control on when and how the format is supported.
>
> Well if worst comes to worst, you just don't install the newer version
> of the software. Anyway I don't think MS would last long if their
> latest version of Word didn't allow imports from previous versions - I
> wouldn't worry.
>
> And if worst comes to absolute worse (like Word2009 only allows you to
> open Word2009 files and nothing else) then you'd probably stick with
> Word2008 until MS released an update (along with every other company in
> the world) or start using OpenOffice (which someone would no doubt have
> written a very good Word2008 importer for).
>
> The bottom line is the benefits of using MS Office far outweigh any risk
> of all your documents suddenly becoming unusable.
>
>
Word can only import from the previous 2, maybe 3, versions. If you have
upgraded through more than that many versions, you can import from older
versions, dating back about 2 versions before the first version that you actualy
installed. The problem is that you loose that capacity if you get a new computer
and forget to transfert all your old convertion filters.
Whenever you need to access any old document that have not been accessed for
more than 3 or 4 years, you run the risk of not been able do to it, as you may
no longer have the appropriate filters.
--
Alain
-------------------------------------------------
The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear
arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in
government.
Thomas Jefferson
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>> benefits of using MS Office
>
> What benefits would those be?
That everyone knows how to use them, they work with all your other software,
and you can share files with your suppliers and customers hassle-free.
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> Word can only import from the previous 2, maybe 3, versions. If you have
> upgraded through more than that many versions, you can import from older
> versions, dating back about 2 versions before the first version that you
> actualy installed. The problem is that you loose that capacity if you get
> a new computer and forget to transfert all your old convertion filters.
>
> Whenever you need to access any old document that have not been accessed
> for more than 3 or 4 years, you run the risk of not been able do to it, as
> you may no longer have the appropriate filters.
Hmm, my Word 2003 looks like it will open Word 6 files (1995?), which is 8
years.
So you're saying that if your company was based on Word 5, and then upgraded
to Word 2003, you would get stuck? Well yeh, you probably would, but I'm
pretty sure there would be a cheap solution to converting, even if it meant
buying an intermediate copy of Word to help with the conversions.
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scott <sco### [at] laptopcom> wrote:
> >> benefits of using MS Office
> >
> > What benefits would those be?
> That everyone knows how to use them, they work with all your other software,
> and you can share files with your suppliers and customers hassle-free.
It was a rhetorical question.
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