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scott wrote:
>> And I think the problem here is that software writers *expect* to just
>> be able to waste RAM whenever they feel like it because, after all,
>> "everybody has lots of RAM now, don't they?"
>
> Yup, and in the same way that game writers make 3D models with 200k
> faces instead of 200 faces, just because everyone has a decent 3D card
> nowadays.
No, that's not *wasting* the extra GPU power, that's *using* the extra
GPU power to do something useful. That's a good thing. (And typically
you can still run using an older GPU because each mesh usually has
multiple LOD versions anyway.)
What I object to is software *wasting* resources (CPU, RAM, etc.) just
because it can. There's really no need for that.
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Darren New nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2007/11/04 13:34:
> Alain wrote:
>> Upgrading your RAM is a snap!
>
> Assuming you can still purchase RAM for your old machine, and assuming
> you know what RAM you need for the machine, and assuming you have slots
> free, and assuming the balancing between slots is right (i.e., that
> you're not plugging 1G into one slot and 128M into another slot that
> upsets the BIOS), it's straightforward.
Why would that cause any problem? Unless you have dual chanels, you can have all
different capacity modules without any problem: personal experience with
different computers, different brand mobos, different brand RAMs.
>
> But yah, it's maybe one step harder than replacing your hard drive, with
> the benefit that it's volatile, so every program already accounts for
> losing the data in it. :-)
>
I can no longer find DDR266, but 1G DDR400 have no problem coexisting with my
512M DDR266. Both run as DDR266, one at full speed and 1 is underclocked. As
long as it can actualy fit in a slot, it does work.
If you have dual channels, then you need to have matched pairs, but the pairs
from 2 different banks don't need to be matched.
--
Alain
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Adult, n.: One old enough to know better.
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scott nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2007/11/05 07:49:
>> And I think the problem here is that software writers *expect* to just
>> be able to waste RAM whenever they feel like it because, after all,
>> "everybody has lots of RAM now, don't they?"
>
> Yup, and in the same way that game writers make 3D models with 200k
> faces instead of 200 faces, just because everyone has a decent 3D card
> nowadays.
>
>
Most gamers DO have more than decent 3D cards. The rest have decent cards ;)
They also have more than enough RAM available.
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Alain
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Caught Asleep At Your Work Desk
Just in case your boss catches you asleep at your desk, be ready to blurt out
this excuse #1: I was working smarter - not harder.
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Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> Doesn't even check for the userid; but it assumes the most common reason
> for failing to acquire the lock is because of running it as non-root,
> and mentions it.
Gentoo kicks ass ;).
aero@aerospace:~$ emerge povray
emerge: superuser access is required.
aero@aerospace:~$
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Eero "Aero" Ahonen
http://www.zbxt.net
aer### [at] removethis zbxtnetinvalid
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> What I object to is software *wasting* resources (CPU, RAM, etc.) just
> because it can. There's really no need for that.
Even if software did do that, it wouldn't matter because it would just get
paged out of RAM when necessary and never return (unless it was actually
used for something, which is highly probable).
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Brian Elliott wrote:
> If the Sunrise in the morning blinds you through the bedroom window
> every morning, you don't get all cranky and yell at the Sun do you?
>
No, you yell at the person who opened the blinds and curtains enough so
that the sun could even get through. Then throw the nearest pillow or,
on second offense, hardback book at said person.
Pity to damage a good book that way, but some times . . .
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On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:59:34 -0800, Darren New wrote:
> at the start of the code?
Apparently so. ;-)
(Of course, anyone can submit a patch.....<g>)
Jim
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Alain wrote:
> Why would that cause any problem? Unless you have dual chanels, you can
> have all different capacity modules without any problem: personal
> experience with different computers, different brand mobos, different
> brand RAMs.
I've come across situations where it needed balanced RAM. Not being an
expert, and not really caring to learn such details, I don't know why.
And we had a machine at work we were going to use as a router that was
too old to find RAM for. The oldest stuff we could find had physically
different connectors, so...
Just saying, since it's in response to someone who regularly complains
about how ancient his machines are... :-)
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
Remember the good old days, when we
used to complain about cryptography
being export-restricted?
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Brian Elliott wrote:
> If the Sunrise in the morning blinds you through the bedroom window
> every morning, you don't get all cranky and yell at the Sun do you?
Well, maybe three days in the spring and three in the fall. We have a
prismatic crystal hanging in that window, so occasionally I'll get woken
by a blinding BLUE glare in one eye, or something like that. But it's
amusing enough to be worth putting up with.
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
Remember the good old days, when we
used to complain about cryptography
being export-restricted?
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Darren New nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2007/11/06 00:00:
> Alain wrote:
>> Why would that cause any problem? Unless you have dual chanels, you
>> can have all different capacity modules without any problem: personal
>> experience with different computers, different brand mobos, different
>> brand RAMs.
>
> I've come across situations where it needed balanced RAM. Not being an
> expert, and not really caring to learn such details, I don't know why.
>
> And we had a machine at work we were going to use as a router that was
> too old to find RAM for. The oldest stuff we could find had physically
> different connectors, so...
>
> Just saying, since it's in response to someone who regularly complains
> about how ancient his machines are... :-)
>
I don't complain ;) It's just that I know that my machine is ready to get it's
replacement.
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Alain
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To err is human, to forgive is not our policy.
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