Stephen wrote:
> My mother would have given her eye teeth for a pattern generator like this.

Now that you mention it, I think I've found the basis of a macro for my 
walk-thru castle's tapestries. :-)


-- 
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)

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Janet wrote:
> 
> I just want to say this is so much fun to play around with. Thanks for sharing
> it.
> 
> Janet

Your welcome :)

Sam

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Stephen wrote:
> "Janet" <par### [at] attnet> wrote:
> 
>> I just want to say this is so much fun to play around with. Thanks for sharing
>> it.
>>
> 
> My mother would have given her eye teeth for a pattern generator like this. I
> can see her using it for Fair Isle jumpers.
> 
> Stephen

Eye teeth? Are those little stones you put into your teeth? If so, I 
thought Kim Stanley Robinson came up with that...

Oh, I just remembered why I didn't post this pattern before. Your 
message reminded me that I once had plans to generate textile patterns 
with the hopes of selling them, using this generator. Oh well, maybe one 
of you can do it ;)

Sam

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stbenge <THI### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:

>
> Eye teeth? Are those little stones you put into your teeth? If so, I
> thought Kim Stanley Robinson came up with that...
>

LOL, Your eye teeth are your canine teeth and those gem stones are an African
thing to show your wealth.

> Oh, I just remembered why I didn't post this pattern before. Your
> message reminded me that I once had plans to generate textile patterns
> with the hopes of selling them, using this generator. Oh well, maybe one
> of you can do it ;)
>

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> // Code
> // render with +w500 +h500
>
> global_settings{assumed_gamma 2.2}
>
> #default{finish{ambient 1}}
>
> camera{
>   orthographic
>   right x*2 up y*2
>   location -z*100 look_at 0
> }
>
> #declare native_motif=
> pigment{
>   gradient y triangle_wave
>   #declare V=0;
>   #while(V<1)
>    translate y*.75
>    rotate z*45.2
>    //rotate -z*45.1
>    scale .98
>    warp{repeat x*5 flip x}
>    #declare V=V+1/100;
>   #end
>   scale .1
> }
>
> plane{z,-1
>   pigment{
>    native_motif
>    color_map{[0 rgb 0][.5 rgb<.5,.3,.1>][1 rgb 1]}
>   }
> }
>

This was exactly what I was talking about... well, I didnt expected something as
beautiful as this!!! it is incredible!!! Congratulations.

Well, at this point I have to say that I have discovered two promissing ways in
Blender to improve its not-so-good textures generator. One is to use nodes
(still dont know exactly what it is). The other way is that you can program
things in phyton, still dont know if you can program textures...

I will probably try with nodes, but I wont with Phyton. I have too many
programation languages in my head. Dont want another one!!!!

We'll always have PovRay!

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stbenge wrote:
> Everything hinges on that darned GUI! The developers have to find ways 
> to incorporate new features into the program without making the GUI a 
> difficult monstrosity to contend with. More procedurals would be nice, 
> and wouldn't add unnecessary clutter.

OTOH, seems like Blender is getting node-based textures, so 
textures-inside-textures is now possible. :)

http://www.blendernation.com/2008/11/13/new-feature-in-development-texture-nodes/
http://www.blendernation.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/manual-part-iv-texture-node-example.png

I don't have a problem with Blender's GUI, but then, it's the only 3D 
editor I know.  What I like about it the most is all the keyboard 
shortcuts, so that I hardly use the mouse to do anything other then mesh 
editing.

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nemesis <nam### [at] nospamgmailcom> wrote:
> OTOH, seems like Blender is getting node-based textures, so
> textures-inside-textures is now possible. :)

I think the node-based approach is very powerful, and can benefit more than just
shading. Some apps, such as Houdini or (recently, with ICE) XSI seem to take
full advantage of nodes in modelling, animation, compositing, the lot.

Tom

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"Tom York" <alp### [at] zubenelgenubi34spcom> wrote:
> nemesis <nam### [at] nospamgmailcom> wrote:
> > OTOH, seems like Blender is getting node-based textures, so
> > textures-inside-textures is now possible. :)
>
> I think the node-based approach is very powerful, and can benefit more than just
> shading. Some apps, such as Houdini or (recently, with ICE) XSI seem to take
> full advantage of nodes in modelling, animation, compositing, the lot.

Yes.  Blender already had node-based materials and scene compositing.  Users are
demanding action nodes for animation as well.

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nemesis wrote:
> stbenge wrote:
>> Everything hinges on that darned GUI! The developers have to find ways 
>> to incorporate new features into the program without making the GUI a 
>> difficult monstrosity to contend with. More procedurals would be nice, 
>> and wouldn't add unnecessary clutter.
> 
> OTOH, seems like Blender is getting node-based textures, so 
> textures-inside-textures is now possible. :)
> 
> http://www.blendernation.com/2008/11/13/new-feature-in-development-texture-nodes/ 

I saw this yesterday, and was reminded of this thread :) It looks really 
cool, and should make Blender's texture system much more flexible. That 
Mandelbrot node setup was just insane, did you see that?

> I don't have a problem with Blender's GUI, but then, it's the only 3D 
> editor I know.  What I like about it the most is all the keyboard 
> shortcuts, so that I hardly use the mouse to do anything other then mesh 
> editing.

I like Blender's GUI, but seriously, I would not want to program one 
like it. The developers have done a good job so far, keeping things 
under the proper tabs, menus and window types. I agree with you about 
the keyboard shortcuts; they make life much easier. Sounds like you're 
farther into that than I am :)

Sam

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stbenge <THI### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> nemesis wrote:
> > stbenge wrote:
> >> Everything hinges on that darned GUI! The developers have to find ways
> >> to incorporate new features into the program without making the GUI a
> >> difficult monstrosity to contend with. More procedurals would be nice,
> >> and wouldn't add unnecessary clutter.
> >
> > OTOH, seems like Blender is getting node-based textures, so
> > textures-inside-textures is now possible. :)
> >
> > http://www.blendernation.com/2008/11/13/new-feature-in-development-texture-nodes/
>
> I saw this yesterday, and was reminded of this thread :) It looks really
> cool, and should make Blender's texture system much more flexible. That
> Mandelbrot node setup was just insane, did you see that?

Yes!  Should've linked to it instead!! O_o

> I like Blender's GUI, but seriously, I would not want to program one
> like it. The developers have done a good job so far, keeping things
> under the proper tabs, menus and window types.

I think it's one of the things that make it so light and portable.  I mean, the
whole thing being OpenGL.

> I agree with you about
> the keyboard shortcuts; they make life much easier. Sounds like you're
> farther into that than I am :)

It reminds me very much of the text editor vi.  All keys are command shortcuts.
:)

I decided to seriously learn it these past weeks.  I mean, learning about all
modelling mesh techiniques and Blender as well.  Right now, I'm not yet
concerned with full scenes, just sketches to learn to model, radiosity, AO and
all the different render passes and composition.  I'll soon post a complete
scene with my progress.  Visual mesh modelling is truly amazing. :)

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