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From: Francesco Bennardo
Subject: Invite to see molecules ray tracing pictures
Date: 1 Oct 2007 17:50:00
Message: <web.47016a72a65e60e87f1bd210@news.povray.org>
Dear friends, i need your comments about ray tracing pictures i made: they
are in my site here: http://geomol.0catch.com/ ; also, i need comments
about two buttons for links i made (they are on my site too)
Thank you
Francesco


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From: Grassblade
Subject: Re: Invite to see molecules ray tracing pictures
Date: 9 Oct 2007 17:00:00
Message: <web.470beafa7cd6b94744bccc1e0@news.povray.org>
"Francesco Bennardo" <geo### [at] virgilioit> wrote:
> Dear friends, i need your comments about ray tracing pictures i made: they
> are in my site here: http://geomol.0catch.com/ ; also, i need comments
> about two buttons for links i made (they are on my site too)
> Thank you
> Francesco
Well, I like the way you did the text on the Molecular Geometry banner, but
195 kb just for that one picture? o.O
I also like the picture at the bottom (metal2.jpg)

I have an intense dislike for very long web-pages that could use a sidebar,
it just makes navigation impractical. You should really reduce filesizes,
I'm pretty sure the page weighs over a MB, which is always bad policy.


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From: Francesco Bennardo
Subject: Re: Invite to see molecules ray tracing pictures
Date: 10 Oct 2007 06:40:00
Message: <web.470cab487cd6b94739bbe4850@news.povray.org>
"Grassblade" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> "Francesco Bennardo" <geo### [at] virgilioit> wrote:
> > Dear friends, i need your comments about ray tracing pictures i made: they
> > are in my site here: http://geomol.0catch.com/ ; also, i need comments
> > about two buttons for links i made (they are on my site too)
> > Thank you
> > Francesco
> Well, I like the way you did the text on the Molecular Geometry banner, but
> 195 kb just for that one picture? o.O
> I also like the picture at the bottom (metal2.jpg)
>
> I have an intense dislike for very long web-pages that could use a sidebar,
> it just makes navigation impractical. You should really reduce filesizes,
> I'm pretty sure the page weighs over a MB, which is always bad policy.

Dear Grassblade,
the site is modelled on graphics and for the sake of quality i cannot reduce
the pictures. Also, almost all the pictures are built with POV-Ray and i
want to emphasize as powerful this program is: true, i emphasize it in the
chemical field only, but it is always powerful anywhere. On the other hand,
today internet is fast and the disadvantage of big files is minimized.
The big Home page can be impractical, true, but i prefer use the simpler
HTML code. At last the site is a graphical site, and to see the interactive
molecules a plug-is is needed.
Thank you very much for your comments, if you have others please let me
know. A nice day for you
Francesco


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From: zeroin23
Subject: Re: Invite to see molecules ray tracing pictures
Date: 15 Oct 2007 04:05:01
Message: <web.47131e4d7cd6b947b0f5bef80@news.povray.org>
Hi Sir,

it would be nice if you can provide the source codes to the POV-Ray.

have you seen this?
http://wwwchem.leidenuniv.nl/metprot/armand/
it looks good, but then there is no way to get the source code.

I am trying to replicate the work of reproducing protein secondary structure
in POV-Ray. After trying to do this for 1.5 years, I am still trying to
figure out how to draw beta sheets.

Yours images sizes are too big, think you can reduce the size, the entire
page is 2.58MByte, my suggestion would be, reduce the image to thumbnails
and at the same time provide PV source, so that if required, anyone can
replicated themselves and increase the resolution.

The font is nice.


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From: Francesco Bennardo
Subject: Re: Invite to see molecules ray tracing pictures
Date: 15 Oct 2007 16:40:00
Message: <web.4713cfab7cd6b947575724270@news.povray.org>
"zeroin23" <zer### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> Hi Sir,
>
> it would be nice if you can provide the source codes to the POV-Ray.
>
> have you seen this?
> http://wwwchem.leidenuniv.nl/metprot/armand/
> it looks good, but then there is no way to get the source code.
>
> I am trying to replicate the work of reproducing protein secondary structure
> in POV-Ray. After trying to do this for 1.5 years, I am still trying to
> figure out how to draw beta sheets.
>
> Yours images sizes are too big, think you can reduce the size, the entire
> page is 2.58MByte, my suggestion would be, reduce the image to thumbnails
> and at the same time provide PV source, so that if required, anyone can
> replicated themselves and increase the resolution.
>
> The font is nice.


I will put the sources as soon as possible
If i reduce the size of the pictures, the ray tracing do not look very nice.
Francesco


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: Invite to see molecules ray tracing pictures
Date: 16 Oct 2007 12:18:48
Message: <4714e468@news.povray.org>
Francesco Bennardo nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2007/10/15 16:38:
> "zeroin23" <zer### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>> Hi Sir,
>>
>> it would be nice if you can provide the source codes to the POV-Ray.
>>
>> have you seen this?
>> http://wwwchem.leidenuniv.nl/metprot/armand/
>> it looks good, but then there is no way to get the source code.
>>
>> I am trying to replicate the work of reproducing protein secondary structure
>> in POV-Ray. After trying to do this for 1.5 years, I am still trying to
>> figure out how to draw beta sheets.
>>
>> Yours images sizes are too big, think you can reduce the size, the entire
>> page is 2.58MByte, my suggestion would be, reduce the image to thumbnails
>> and at the same time provide PV source, so that if required, anyone can
>> replicated themselves and increase the resolution.
>>
>> The font is nice.
> 
> 
> I will put the sources as soon as possible
> If i reduce the size of the pictures, the ray tracing do not look very nice.
> Francesco
> 
> 
> 
You can use tumbnails linking to the full size image. It's a common practice.
That way, if you don't want to view an image, you only get the small thumbnail 
to DL. Save time and bandwidth.
You can always have a full size "featured" image at the beginning of the page. 
It can be scripted to automaticaly change from time to time.

-- 
Alain
-------------------------------------------------
   My wife's such a bad cook, the dog begs for Alka-Seltzer.
   	Rodney Dangerfield


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From: Francesco Bennardo
Subject: Re: Invite to see molecules ray tracing pictures
Date: 18 Oct 2007 14:50:00
Message: <web.4717a9b87cd6b94729be0f620@news.povray.org>
Alain <ele### [at] netscapenet> wrote:
> Francesco Bennardo nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2007/10/15 16:38:
> > "zeroin23" <zer### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> >> Hi Sir,
> >>
> >> it would be nice if you can provide the source codes to the POV-Ray.
> >>
> >> have you seen this?
> >> http://wwwchem.leidenuniv.nl/metprot/armand/
> >> it looks good, but then there is no way to get the source code.
> >>
> >> I am trying to replicate the work of reproducing protein secondary structure
> >> in POV-Ray. After trying to do this for 1.5 years, I am still trying to
> >> figure out how to draw beta sheets.
> >>
> >> Yours images sizes are too big, think you can reduce the size, the entire
> >> page is 2.58MByte, my suggestion would be, reduce the image to thumbnails
> >> and at the same time provide PV source, so that if required, anyone can
> >> replicated themselves and increase the resolution.
> >>
> >> The font is nice.
> >
> >
> > I will put the sources as soon as possible
> > If i reduce the size of the pictures, the ray tracing do not look very nice.
> > Francesco
> >
> >
> >
> You can use tumbnails linking to the full size image. It's a common practice.
> That way, if you don't want to view an image, you only get the small thumbnail
> to DL. Save time and bandwidth.
> You can always have a full size "featured" image at the beginning of the page.
> It can be scripted to automaticaly change from time to time.
>
> --
> Alain
> -------------------------------------------------
>    My wife's such a bad cook, the dog begs for Alka-Seltzer.
>     Rodney Dangerfield

Dear friends,
i prefer to have comments about the quality of the ray tracing molecules, if
you all like to do.
I know the sizes of the molecules are big, but they are big on purpose.
I want to emphasize the great power of our beloved, great, excellent, POV
Ray. Look in the galleries. There are 120 molecules ray tracing and many
other in the site pages. All the graphics is POV Ray made.
My site is built for a 1280x960 resolution.
Thank you all
Francesco


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Invite to see molecules ray tracing pictures
Date: 24 Oct 2007 18:19:39
Message: <471fc4fb@news.povray.org>

> My site is built for a 1280x960 resolution.

Sites built for specific resolutions (particularly if they are *that* 
high resolutions) are bad by definition.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Invite to see molecules ray tracing pictures
Date: 25 Oct 2007 01:36:28
Message: <47202b5c$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:19:35 -0300, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:

> Sites built for specific resolutions (particularly if they are *that*
> high resolutions) are bad by definition.

Similarly, requiring plugins that are tied to a particular OS makes it 
difficult for those of us who choose a different OS to use the site....

Jim


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From: Francesco Bennardo
Subject: Re: Invite to see molecules ray tracing pictures
Date: 25 Oct 2007 05:00:00
Message: <web.47205a737cd6b947f79b49ae0@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:19:35 -0300, Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
>
> > Sites built for specific resolutions (particularly if they are *that*
> > high resolutions) are bad by definition.
>
> Similarly, requiring plugins that are tied to a particular OS makes it
> difficult for those of us who choose a different OS to use the site....
>
> Jim

Dear friends,
on the the average the OS more used is Windows, the plugin to see the
dynamic molecules (Chime) is for Windows only, the monitors are 17" or 19",
the
ADSL is from 2mega on, etc.: there are all the ingredients for big
graphical sites i think. Anyway, my site is both for dynamic molecules and
for static raytracing molecule pictures. Also, all the graphics is built
with POV Ray, molecules, banners, anything. Please do not look first the
size or the functionality of the site: look first the graphics. That is,
look all the graphics (made with POV Ray), then give me a comment on the
quality of the graphics, if it is good, not good, too light, too dark,
clear, confusing, etc. Then, tell me anything you want. I am searching
comments on the quality of the graphics just to improve it. At last,
because i really love POV Ray, give me a comment on what i done with POV
Ray. A nice day for you all ant thank you very much.
Francesco


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