Rune <new### [at] runevisioncom> wrote:
> Who are you addressing? The problem is that mere users can't do *anything* 
> about it as far as I can see. There's no way to submit a new link or a 
> suggestion for a new link, nor to change existing ones. For example, there's 
> a link that points to a page of mine that went obsolete in 2002 when my 
> website moved to a new address. I have several times since pleaded in this 
> newsgroup that the link be updated, but have gotten no response whatsoever 
> and so the link has pointed to the wrong address for years.

  I believe that the post for linkmaster is currently open. Would you
be willing to take the job?
  (Don't get me wrong: I'm not promising you the task if you want it
because I can't speak on behalf of the team in this case; I'm just
asking if you would be willing to take the task if the team offered
it to you. If so, I could consult with the team about the current
state of this issue.)

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                                                          - Warp

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> The problem is that mere users can't do *anything*
> about it as far as I can see.

This might be a task for the wiki...

 - Slime
 [ http://www.slimeland.com/ ]

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Warp wrote:
> 
>   I believe that the post for linkmaster is currently open. Would you
> be willing to take the job?

There are two important requirements for someone to maintain the link 
collection: the willingness and ability to do this for a longer time 
(updating things only once does not really help) and some experience 
with POV-Ray to select links and write useful link descriptions.

I think it might be a good option to maintain the link collection in a 
wiki - of course this also would only work if there are enough people 
actively working on it.

Christoph

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Warp wrote:
> Rune <new### [at] runevisioncom> wrote:
>> Who are you addressing? The problem is that mere users can't do
>> *anything* about it as far as I can see. There's no way to submit a
>> new link or a suggestion for a new link, nor to change existing
>> ones. For example, there's a link that points to a page of mine that
>> went obsolete in 2002 when my website moved to a new address. I have
>> several times since pleaded in this newsgroup that the link be
>> updated, but have gotten no response whatsoever and so the link has
>> pointed to the wrong address for years.
>
>  I believe that the post for linkmaster is currently open. Would you
> be willing to take the job?

No. I appreciate your trust in me, but the job as linkmaster is not 
something I desire or a responsibility I would take upon myself.

I personally think that Christoph's and Slime's idea of using the wiki for 
maintaining links sound very promising and advantageous.

Rune
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rune|vision:  http://runevision.com
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"Rune" <new### [at] runevisioncom> wrote:
> MontanaSteve wrote:
> > There is a tremendous amount of dead links in the
> > povray/resources/links. Come on guys lets clean it up
> > and up-date it.
>
> Who are you addressing? The problem is that mere users can't do *anything*
> about it as far as I can see. There's no way to submit a new link or a
> suggestion for a new link, nor to change existing ones. For example, there's
> a link that points to a page of mine that went obsolete in 2002 when my
> website moved to a new address. I have several times since pleaded in this
> newsgroup that the link be updated, but have gotten no response whatsoever
> and so the link has pointed to the wrong address for years.
>
> Rune
> --
> 3D images and anims, include files, tutorials and more:
> rune|vision:  http://runevision.com
> POV-Ray Ring: http://webring.povray.co.uk

I was kind of hoping that the webmaster would read this.  I know that there
is software out there for removing dead links.

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MontanaSteve spake:

> "Rune" <new### [at] runevisioncom> wrote:
>> MontanaSteve wrote:
>> > There is a tremendous amount of dead links in the
>> > povray/resources/links. Come on guys lets clean it up
>> > and up-date it.
>>
>> Who are you addressing? The problem is that mere users can't do
>> *anything* about it as far as I can see. There's no way to submit a new

Isn't Povray.org a dynamic / CMS site?

Thought it was...

-- 
Stefan Viljoen
Software Support Technician / Programmer
Polar Design Solutions

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Christoph Hormann wrote:

> 
> I think it might be a good option to maintain the link collection in a 
> wiki - of course this also would only work if there are enough people 
> actively working on it.
> 

http://www.wikipov.org/ow.asp?p=RecentChanges&days=90

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Tom Galvin wrote:
>>
>> I think it might be a good option to maintain the link collection in a 
>> wiki - of course this also would only work if there are enough people 
>> actively working on it.
>>
> 
> http://www.wikipov.org/ow.asp?p=RecentChanges&days=90

Well - this does not invalidate my statement, does it?

Also note mixing internal references with external links the way it is 
done there is not optimal from the users' standpoint - to find a link to 
the Blender website from

http://www.wikipov.org/ow.asp?SoftWare

for example i first have to go to another subpage.  It is also somewhat 
chaotic and unstructured in other ways - in the 'external links'

http://www.wikipov.org/ow.asp?ExternalLinksFrontPage

you for example don't find the above 'software' page.  So in addition to 
my previous statement i sould probably add that there don't only have to 
be people working on the links themselves but also on maintaining a 
consistent structure of the collection.

Christoph

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Christoph Hormann wrote:
> So in addition to 
> my previous statement i sould probably add that there don't only have to 
> be people working on the links themselves but also on maintaining a 
> consistent structure of the collection.

That's of course very true, and it's obvious that the current structure 
of the Wiki is not perfect. Keep in mind, though, that the Wiki is 
comparatively young, so the "final" structure is not clear, yet. Feel 
free to suggest one or to implement it yourself :) After all, that's 
what a Wiki is all about.


Greetings,
Florian

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Florian Brucker wrote:
> 
> That's of course very true, and it's obvious that the current structure 
> of the Wiki is not perfect. Keep in mind, though, that the Wiki is 
> comparatively young, so the "final" structure is not clear, yet. Feel 
> free to suggest one or to implement it yourself :) After all, that's 
> what a Wiki is all about.

For most wikis it is good to have a clearly defined 'unit of 
information' it is based on.  This helps to structure the information. 
For example wikipedia has the unit of the article which can be cross 
referenced, put into article groups with an index page etc.  In a link 
collection this unit obviously should be the link (with annotated 
information) which is a comparitively small unit.  With this a link can 
be part of several categories (Blender for example could be in 
'modelers', 'renderers' and 'free tools').

Christoph

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MegaPOV with mechanics simulation: http://megapov.inetart.net/

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