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From: ingo
Subject: Wiki?
Date: 12 Dec 2000 14:49:15
Message: <Xns9008DE723seed7@povray.org>
Yesterday evening two non related things happend, Warp posted "A small 
problem with the VFAQ" and I had my first encounter with a WikiWikiWeb.

It took until this morning, on my bicycle to work, for the coin to drop. 
The VFAQ, the french tutorial project, the discussions earlier this year 
about setting up a macro/inc.file repository, the texture repository etc. 
The discussion on the restyling of the Pov-ray site.

How about setting up a Pov-ray WikiWikiWeb.

For those who don't know (I didn't until yesterday), a WikiWikiWeb is a 
site that can be editet by everybody. You can submit your own text, edit 
somebody elses text (pages can be locked though) etc.

The mother WikiWikiWeb:
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WelcomeVisitors

Info:
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WikiWikiWeb

another example:
http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/1

I have no idea how much it would take of the Pov-ray server, or how much 
effort it takes for the maintainer of the site. 
I think it would be an excelent place for a "community driven" and 
"available source" piece of "free" software.


Ingo

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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Wiki?
Date: 12 Dec 2000 19:16:14
Message: <slrn93dft0.jhc.steve@zero-pps.localdomain>
On 12 Dec 2000 14:49:15 -0500, ingo wrote:

>For those who don't know (I didn't until yesterday), a WikiWikiWeb is a 
>site that can be editet by everybody. You can submit your own text, edit 
>somebody elses text (pages can be locked though) etc.

So which of those things aren't available on this news server? OK you can't
edit other poeples messages, but apart from that? 

Nobody says that you can't post a texture or macro in the the scenefile or
utilitis groups etc.  You can post your images, comments, source code, 
utilitis, animations etc. 

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From: ingo
Subject: Re: Wiki?
Date: 13 Dec 2000 02:00:04
Message: <Xns900950790seed7@povray.org>
Steve wrote:

>So which of those things aren't available on this news server? OK you
>can't edit other poeples messages, but apart from that?

Easy acces.
To find something on this newsserver is not easy, most people probably 
only can search headers, not the body. And you'd have to search several 
groups.
Take for example bicubic_patches, a while ago Ron explained to me how they 
worked. At that moment I thought this should be in the doc's. Where there 
a Wiki thing parts of the thread could have been put up there. Editet by 
visitors. Recently Rune asked for some specific use of patches. The 
information this brought up could then easily be added. Without a big 
effort a good tutorial is made.



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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Wiki?
Date: 13 Dec 2000 08:08:58
Message: <slrn93eq8l.kk7.steve@zero-pps.localdomain>
On 13 Dec 2000 02:00:04 -0500, ingo wrote:
>Steve wrote:
>
>>So which of those things aren't available on this news server? OK you
>>can't edit other poeples messages, but apart from that?
>
>Easy acces.
>To find something on this newsserver is not easy, most people probably 
>only can search headers, not the body. And you'd have to search several 
>groups.

So what you're saying is that the people who post here don't use accurate
subject lines, these same people would be adding the content to the web
space that you talk of (probably adding zipped up code that you can't 
search). 

>Take for example bicubic_patches, a while ago Ron explained to me how they 
>worked. At that moment I thought this should be in the doc's. Where there 
>a Wiki thing parts of the thread could have been put up there. Editet by 
>visitors. Recently Rune asked for some specific use of patches. The 
>information this brought up could then easily be added. Without a big 
>effort a good tutorial is made.

Again same as I said above, but I am able to search the whole messages
and groups and clusters/sets of groups (but this is no place to harp
on about a superior OS). 

I'll have a look for the stuff on bicubic_patches for you and report 
back to this thread.

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From: Steve
Subject: Re: Wiki?
Date: 13 Dec 2000 08:08:59
Message: <slrn93et5o.kqe.steve@zero-pps.localdomain>
Messages with bicubic_patch or bicubic_patches found in them. 

Some interesting stuff in here, but Ron didn't post to this 
thread. 

Subject: Bezier_plane_uv macro
From: "Yasu.I" <iwa### [at] posaganetnejp>
Newsgroups: povray.binaries.images
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 11:13:29 +0900

Don't think this is what you're looking for. 

Subject: MegaPov 0.6 available for download
From: "Nathan Kopp" <Nat### [at] Koppcom>
Newsgroups: povray.unofficial.patches,povray.macintosh
Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2000 16:55:52 -0400

That was a search on "bicubic_patches" and now for a search on
"bicubic_patch". 

I don't have the beginning of the thread for this one.

From: "ddombrow" <ddo### [at] vtedu>
Newsgroups: povray.general
Subject: Re: Bicubic patch with 3 corners ?
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 14:40:42 -0500

This one is about using a bicubic patch as a camera. 

Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 08:24:55 +0800
From: Pabs <pab### [at] hotmailcom>
Newsgroups: povray.binaries.images
Subject: Object camera example

And some more stuff I'll just list them all below. 

From: "Chris Colefax" <cco### [at] geocitiescom>
Newsgroups: povray.binaries.scene-files
Subject: Re: Looking for an Open Book
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 19:49:05 +1000

Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 19:16:59 -0400
From: Saadat Saeed <saa### [at] yahoocom>
Newsgroups: povray.binaries.scene-files
Subject: viking ship

Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 15:27:49 -0500
From: David Fontaine <dav### [at] faricynet>
Newsgroups: povray.binaries.scene-files
Subject: Menger isosurface

Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 14:32:41 +0200
From: Jerome <ber### [at] inamecom>
Newsgroups: povray.binaries.utilities
Subject: Linux + MegaPov + (X)Emacs

Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 10:41:03 -0700
From: Loial Raven <Loi### [at] telusnet>
Newsgroups: povray.binaries.utilities
Subject: Bicubic Line include file

Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 23:27:55 -0500
From: Robert Chaffe <a0003738@airmail.net>
Newsgroups: povray.binaries.utilities
Subject: Quick Reference and Limits

Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 16:59:29 +0800
From: Pabs <pab### [at] hotmailcom>
Newsgroups: povray.programming
Subject: Re: Feature Idea: Rotational Coordinants

From: Daren Scot Wilson <dar### [at] pipelinecom>
Newsgroups: povray.text.scene-files
Subject: Hills
Date: 24 Mar 2000 10:56:10 -0500

From: Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg>
Subject: UV-mapping of bicubic patches not working in 0.6a
Newsgroups: povray.unofficial.patches
Date: 11 Nov 2000 07:35:42 -0500

Hope some of that helps. 

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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: Wiki?
Date: 13 Dec 2000 08:23:37
Message: <slrn93eu2q.1hg.ron.parker@fwi.com>
On 13 Dec 2000 08:08:59 -0500, Steve wrote:
>
>Messages with bicubic_patch or bicubic_patches found in them. 
>
>Some interesting stuff in here, but Ron didn't post to this 
>thread. 

He's thinking of this post and others like it:

From: par### [at] my-dejanewscom (Ron Parker)
Newsgroups:  povray.advanced-users
Subject: Re: Q: smooth union of bezier patches
Message-ID: <3720d6ef.0@news.povray.org>
Date: 23 Apr 1999 16:24:15 -0500
Xref: news.povray.org povray.advanced-users:88

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From: ingo
Subject: Re: Wiki?
Date: 13 Dec 2000 12:29:15
Message: <Xns9009BEEE9seed7@povray.org>
Steve wrote:

>So what you're saying is that the people who post here don't use
>accurate subject lines, ...

No. Not everybody has the possibilities / capabilities to do a thorrow 
search in a newsgroup. 
Sorry Steve, but I'm having a little :) here, thank you for proving my 
point altough you intended otherwise (see Ron' post 
<slr### [at] fwicom>).

>... these same people would be adding the content
>to the web space that you talk of (probably adding zipped up code that
>you can't search). 
>

I have no idea if it's possible to do that.

>Again same as I said above, but I am able to search the whole messages
>and groups and clusters/sets of groups (but this is no place to harp
>on about a superior OS). 

It's more a matter of abilities and decision of the user. I decided to 
keep nothing from this server on my machine because of my current lack of 
space. When I'm looking for something, the newsserver can search the 
headers, on a per group basis, for me.
On a side note: in real life I encounter many people that are completely 
WWW oriented and have never used USENET. It scares them somehowe and a 
private newsserver is even more scary?

>I'll have a look for the stuff on bicubic_patches for you and report 
>back to this thread.
>


Ingo

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