"Jim Holsenback" <jho### [at] povrayorg> wrote in message 
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> "Chris B" <nom### [at] nomailcom> wrote in message 
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>> As per Mike's note; Geocities is closing all its free websites on 26th 
>> October.
>
> Maybe a bit after the fact, as it looks like you are fairly deep into your 
> investigation, but I have the source files for the links page(s). I've 
> found the CSV files useful once I loaded them into a spreadsheet. I've 
> been using open office on linux, but I'm sure excel on doze would suit 
> just fine. Sorry I didn't think to offer this up sooner. At any rate email 
> me and I send them too you if you think it might help out.
>
> Jim

I should be able to read an Open Office spreadsheet.
Can you send it to chris.bartlett2 on the server virgin.net  (I'm assuming 
it's no more than a few hundred KB).

Regards,
Chris B.

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Chris B wrote:
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> "Jim Holsenback" <jho### [at] povrayorg> wrote in message
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>> "Sabrina Kilian" <ski### [at] vtedu> wrote in message
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>>> Thanks for gathering it all into links. I will go through and make a
>>> copy of anything that is available for download. In case we get in touch
>>> with anyone after the sites close, the source code and other stuff will
>>> still be available.
>>>
>>> And if it is free to redistribute under a non-CC license, I can drop it
>>> on my personal domain for others to use.
>>
>> It just occured to me the some of the macros that a new home can't be
>> found, could exsist on the Wiki enclosed in the <pre> </pre> tags,
>> then just use copy/paste to get the code. Wiki export page function
>> wraps things in xml maybe that's a possibility as well. I could follow
>> up if everyone thinks theres any merit.
>>
>> Jim
> 
> I reckon that a web site would be best and simplest. There might be a
> mixture of pov, inc and ini files, plus maybe height field graphics etc.
> and it's easiest to just redistribute this sort of stuff as it comes.
> If Sabrina has one at an educational institution she can probably save
> zip files, inc files etc. without the limitations that most of the free
> web site hosts put on that sort of thing (a limitation that geocities
> didn't suffer from).
> 
> Regards,
> Chris B.
> 
> 

The university does not provide very much in the way of storage or
access. But, I have what used to be google pages for lots of storage,
and a very cheap domain with lots (near unlimited) storage. The only
downside is paying bandwidth, which for text files is negligible.

If you all find more pages that need to be backed up, please post them
or email them to me. I will get to them as fast as I can.

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If there is no E-Mail item on your list, does this mean you
did not find one on the page? I had a look at the first two
entries on your objects list (8,12?) and found an email for
both. I have a bit of time this week to go address hunting
if this would be helpful to you ;)

Although any address which has been plain readable for years
on an abondoned geocities cite is probably dead by now ...

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Jim Holsenback wrote:
> I find myself agreeing with Chris on this one .... maybe the Wiki would suit 
> for single files, but packages of files might prove cumbersome. As I 
> mentioned earlier the built in Wiki export was designed to companion with 
> the Wiki import feature. It works great on bundles of files that I've been 
> moving from my test bed to the POV-Wiki but it doesn't include the images 
> embedded with those files. I've had to upload those separately.
> 
> Jim 

At least the progress list could be moved to the wiki.

-Mike

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Chris B wrote:
> As per Mike's note; Geocities is closing all its free websites on 26th 
> October.

Just a note, I already got permission and uploaded most of the stuff 
from this page to the Object Collection. Might want to double check to 
make sure I didn't miss anything.

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/6575/frames.html

-Mike

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SharkD wrote:
> Chris B wrote:
>> As per Mike's note; Geocities is closing all its free websites on 26th 
>> October.
> 
> Just a note, I already got permission and uploaded most of the stuff 
> from this page to the Object Collection. Might want to double check to 
> make sure I didn't miss anything.
> 
> http://www.geocities.com/Area51/6575/frames.html
> 
> -Mike

Actually, I think I only uploaded the self-contained objects, not the 
whole scenes.

-Mike

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"SharkD" <mik### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message 
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> Jim Holsenback wrote:
>> I find myself agreeing with Chris on this one .... maybe the Wiki would 
>> suit for single files, but packages of files might prove cumbersome. As I 
>> mentioned earlier the built in Wiki export was designed to companion with 
>> the Wiki import feature. It works great on bundles of files that I've 
>> been moving from my test bed to the POV-Wiki but it doesn't include the 
>> images embedded with those files. I've had to upload those separately.
>>
>> Jim
>
> At least the progress list could be moved to the wiki.
>
> -Mike

I think that would be a good idea for the potential Wiki content 
(Tutorials/Tips etc) http://povhouse.freewebsites.com/geocities/wiki.html 
and for the Galleries links 
http://povhouse.freewebsites.com/geocities/galleries.html.
I'm not planning to update those two lists further and it would mean that 
anyone interested in pursuing that content could manage it through the Wiki, 
so please feel free to go ahead with those two any time you like.

I'm still working on updates to the Utility and Objects spreadsheet. Having 
merged the CSV links data that Jim sent me I now plan to take the list down 
to a level more detail to enable individual downloadable content and author 
permissions to be tracked.

One word of caution about email addresses. The ones I've published so far 
are direct copies from existing web pages. If we get email addresses any 
other way then we should be careful and treat them as private data so that 
the poor souls don't get spammed to hell and back.

Regards,
Chris B.

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"Christian Froeschlin" <chr### [at] chrfrde> wrote in message 
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> If there is no E-Mail item on your list, does this mean you
> did not find one on the page?

That's right. I picked up the email address if I happened to notice it, but 
I was mainly focussed on identifying the type of content so that I could cut 
the list up into something manageable, so I've probably missed quite a few.

> I had a look at the first two
> entries on your objects list (8,12?) and found an email for
> both.

Links 8 and 12 are on the list of 'Galleries' which I'm not planning to do 
anything further with myself. Maybe someone else will step up for that list, 
or for the Tutorials/Tips list.

> I have a bit of time this week to go address hunting
> if this would be helpful to you ;)

Yes please, for the 'objects' list at 
http://povhouse.freewebsites.com/geocities/object.html, where I think I'm 
likely to want to track down about 40 authors, that would be really helpful.
You could drop me a line on the account chris.bartlett2 on the server 
virgin.net then we can coordinate a little to reduce the risk of duplication 
of effort.

> Although any address which has been plain readable for years
> on an abondoned geocities cite is probably dead by now ...

Which reminds me that we should be a little careful to only publish emails 
that are already out there (and that are therefore already spam-ridden). Any 
addresses we get that aren't already on web pages we should do what we can 
to keep a bit private.

Regards,
Chris B.

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"SharkD" <mik### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message 
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> SharkD wrote:
>> Chris B wrote:
>>> As per Mike's note; Geocities is closing all its free websites on 26th 
>>> October.
>>
>> Just a note, I already got permission and uploaded most of the stuff from 
>> this page to the Object Collection. Might want to double check to make 
>> sure I didn't miss anything.
>>
>> http://www.geocities.com/Area51/6575/frames.html
>>
>> -Mike

Oh yes! Shows how much my brain was on autopilot when going through those 
439 links :-)

> Actually, I think I only uploaded the self-contained objects, not the 
> whole scenes.

Did the permission you already get cover the whole site content?
If so, presumably it would cover Sabrina taking a copy?
Do you think the various complete scenes would be good additions to the OC?

Regards,
Chris B.

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"Chris B" <nom### [at] nomailcom> wrote:
....
> Objects and Utilities
> --------------------
> There are about 80 pages where there seem to be downloadable objects or
> utilities. I'll be looking at them more closely to try and work out whether
> there's stuff that can be saved. If you are the author of anything on that
> list, please let me know ASAP.  Any assistance with this effort would be
> most welcome.
> See: http://povhouse.freewebsites.com/geocities/objects.html
....
The entery for StephenS about Moray, plugins, fullmoon Lua_scripting_plugin, is
mine.
I'm still around, but no longer actively working on the plugins, but will still
support questions as time permits.
My work, as hosted on geocities, can be freely used/modified. If hosted
elsewhere, please add a note that it is a copy that is no longer maintained.

Stephen S

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