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On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:06:19 -0400, David Buck <dav### [at] simberon com> wrote:
>Excellent. I think 9 should be enough to convince any publisher :-)
As they say in the American idiom, "Go for it".
I'll buy one if it isn't in the local library :-)
--
Regards
Stephen
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David Buck wrote:
> I'm feeling more and more that there's an interesting story to be told
> about DKBTrace/POVRay that I'm the only person in a position to tell.
The story is interesting but probably not so for enough people
(although more than 9) if it stands by itself. However, it might
be the seeding point for a general POV-Ray book which appeals to
a wider audience as well. I think there is one from 1994 and that
there have been later attempts - I was surprised to find there is
a dedicated newsgroup p.d.books for this already - which went
nowhere. This might be different if the original author
is a driving force behind it.
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David Buck wrote:
> I'm feeling more and more that there's an interesting story to be told
> about DKBTrace/POVRay that I'm the only person in a position to tell.
> Others can talk about POVRay and what it does but I'm the only one who
> knows where the ideas came from and how it all came to be. M
I have always been curious about this story.
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On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:46:03 -0400, Jim Charter wrote:
> David Buck wrote:
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>> I'm feeling more and more that there's an interesting story to be told
>> about DKBTrace/POVRay that I'm the only person in a position to tell.
>> Others can talk about POVRay and what it does but I'm the only one who
>> knows where the ideas came from and how it all came to be. M
>
> I have always been curious about this story.
Same here. :-)
Jim
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"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msncom> schreef in bericht
news:49f77936$1@news.povray.org...
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> I have always been curious about this story.
Yes indeed!
Thomas
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David Buck <dav### [at] simberoncom> wrote:
> I'm feeling more and more that there's an interesting story to be told
> about DKBTrace/POVRay that I'm the only person in a position to tell.
> Others can talk about POVRay and what it does but I'm the only one who
> knows where the ideas came from and how it all came to be. My wife is
> encouraging me to pursue the idea. I think I'll do some basic research
> and see if it makes sense to propose it to a publisher.
Just in case the feedback from conventional publishers would be lousy, how about
going for Print On Demand?
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clipka wrote:
> David Buck <dav### [at] simberoncom> wrote:
>> I'm feeling more and more that there's an interesting story to be told
>> about DKBTrace/POVRay that I'm the only person in a position to tell.
>> Others can talk about POVRay and what it does but I'm the only one who
>> knows where the ideas came from and how it all came to be. My wife is
>> encouraging me to pursue the idea. I think I'll do some basic research
>> and see if it makes sense to propose it to a publisher.
>
> Just in case the feedback from conventional publishers would be lousy, how about
> going for Print On Demand?
>
Print on Demand is always an option but you do need to anticipate lower
sales and much more work on marketing. It's a definite option, though.
David
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On Sun, 03 May 2009 07:41:11 -0400, clipka wrote:
> David Buck <dav### [at] simberoncom> wrote:
>> I'm feeling more and more that there's an interesting story to be told
>> about DKBTrace/POVRay that I'm the only person in a position to tell.
>> Others can talk about POVRay and what it does but I'm the only one who
>> knows where the ideas came from and how it all came to be. My wife is
>> encouraging me to pursue the idea. I think I'll do some basic research
>> and see if it makes sense to propose it to a publisher.
>
> Just in case the feedback from conventional publishers would be lousy,
> how about going for Print On Demand?
Or an e-book, I have some friends who have self-published an e-book for a
niche market, and while there is a risk of piracy, enough were willing to
pay for it that they did very well.
One friend wrote a book about a little-used firewall/proxy solution and
priced it at $29.95. He sold about 1,000 copies of it - not a lot in the
world of publishing (not enough for any serious publisher to pick it up),
but he made > $30K for it, minus the price of a copy of Framemaker, which
I recall is what he published it with.
Conversely, the first book I did, we sold about 7,000 copies and I made
about $1.50/copy - not quite enough to pay back the advance I received.
Jim
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> Conversely, the first book I did, we sold about 7,000 copies and I made
> about $1.50/copy - not quite enough to pay back the advance I received.
Indeed - the book publishing industry really isn't very profitable for the
majority of authors. I recall reading the "Advice to Authors, by Anonymae"
article in RTN many years ago, and suspect that many of the things in it are
still true today.
http://tog.acm.org/resources/RTNews/html/rtnv9n2.html#art2
Also, the attitude of some publishers towards what they get when a contract is
signed has to be taken into consideration: see for example the Mathworld story
at http://www.ericweisstein.com/authors-rights/erics_commentary.html.
-- Chris
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David Buck wrote:
> I'm feeling more and more that there's an interesting story to be told
> about DKBTrace/POVRay that I'm the only person in a position to tell.
> Others can talk about POVRay and what it does but I'm the only one who
> knows where the ideas came from and how it all came to be. My wife is
> encouraging me to pursue the idea. I think I'll do some basic research
> and see if it makes sense to propose it to a publisher.
It would be an interesting thing to read, especially getting into the technical
areas. But I don't know if a traditional publisher would be convinced of the
potential. I would suggest perhaps using one of the print-on-demand services
that allow books to be ordered via the internet (e.g. the POV-Ray website could
link to or sell them).
Probably I ought to make the docs available that way someday too; I personally
(having grown up in the pre-personal computer era) prefer tutorial-type
documentation in dead tree format, and in fact one of the first things I did
when learning POV-Ray back in the 1.0 days was print out the entire manual. (I
can remember this because I only a few weeks back did a garage clean-out and
came across the original printout I did about 15 years ago!)
I also would be keen to see a new beginners-type book on POV-Ray, however that's
a fair chunk of work, though it's possible it could be based on one of the
existing (old) ones as a starting point; I think Eduard's one is probably the
more recent, and I seem to recall he did get the copyright back.
-- Chris
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