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Chris B wrote:
> Jim, are you in?
> Anyone else like to help?
Sure, I'll chase down a few.
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> Once we've got started we'll set a closing date and invite people to give us
> new links through this newsgroup.
> After that we'll send back the new file for loading into the database.
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> Regards,
> Chris B.
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Chris B wrote:
> it would be easiest to work with a big machine-readable text file
Fastest way to get this into your hands would be to dump it from the DB
usingg phpMyAdmin. I can export as SQL, CSV or XML. Are any of these useful
to you ?
-- Chris
NB note that there are two tables; one for categories and one for the links
themselves. The links refer to the category by ID. I would be open to
modifying the DB to allow a link to be in multiple categories if this was useful.
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Chris Cason <del### [at] deletethistoo povrayorg> wrote:
> Chris B wrote:
> > it would be easiest to work with a big machine-readable text file
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> Fastest way to get this into your hands would be to dump it from the DB
> usingg phpMyAdmin. I can export as SQL, CSV or XML. Are any of these useful
> to you ?
I guess it depends how many people are going to help check the links.
Everyone can read CSV, and XML is pretty easy to parse. I don't know SQL
(yet :).
> NB note that there are two tables; one for categories and one for the links
> themselves. The links refer to the category by ID. I would be open to
> modifying the DB to allow a link to be in multiple categories if this was useful.
I think multiple categories would be very useful. You could split things up
into beginner, general and advanced; still and anim; pure POV and scenes
that require external programs. Etc.
PS. I'm prepared to donate time manually checking out links. I'm also not
averse to writing file conversion utilities in awk, if that's any use in
this task. I know nothing about SQL or php, but I'm ok with HTML &
Javascript.
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PM 2Ring wrote:
> I think multiple categories would be very useful. You could split things up
> into beginner, general and advanced; still and anim; pure POV and scenes
> that require external programs. Etc.
I would strongly recommend to first update the links, rather than start two
things at once (update and reorganization). As it stands, updating itself is
a lot of work.
Thorsten
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PM 2Ring wrote:
> I think multiple categories would be very useful. You could split things up
> into beginner, general and advanced; still and anim; pure POV and scenes
> that require external programs. Etc.
I would strongly recommend to first update the links, rather than start two
things at once (update and reorganization). As it stands, updating itself is
a lot of work.
Thorsten
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Thorsten Froehlich <tho### [at] trfde> wrote:
> PM 2Ring wrote:
> > I think multiple categories would be very useful. You could split things up
> > into beginner, general and advanced; still and anim; pure POV and scenes
> > that require external programs. Etc.
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> I would strongly recommend to first update the links, rather than start two
> things at once (update and reorganization). As it stands, updating itself is
> a lot of work.
Certainly we should update the links first, that is the priority. But I
think Chris Cason was just talking about setting things up at the outset to
allow for multiple categories. I agree there is no need to worry about the
organization of the links until they've all been checked and we know what
we've actually got.
Still, during the process of manually checking links, we could take some
notes about the link, even if this is just a short list of keywords.
FWIW, I haven't looked at the links page for a while, but the last time I
did it was so frustrating. Maybe the links page should have a big "Warning:
Under Reconstruction: most links out of date" notice on it?
I bet a lot of new users go to the links page before they discover these
newsgroups, and get the idea that they won't be getting very much that's
useful from the POV site, apart from the program itself. I was using POV
for years before I bothered checking in here (to my pleasant surprise).
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"Chris Cason" <del### [at] deletethistoopovrayorg> wrote in
message news:4458afcf@news.povray.org...
> Chris B wrote:
>> it would be easiest to work with a big machine-readable text file
>
> Fastest way to get this into your hands would be to dump it from the DB
> usingg phpMyAdmin. I can export as SQL, CSV or XML. Are any of these
> useful
> to you ?
>
I can read any of those and freely translate between them. CSV is my
preferred starting point. It's easiest to chop up and allocate out chunks.
>
> -- Chris
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> NB note that there are two tables; one for categories and one for the
> links
> themselves. The links refer to the category by ID. I would be open to
> modifying the DB to allow a link to be in multiple categories if this was
> useful.
OK. I'll give this some thought, taking on board the observations by
Thorsten and PM.
I'll send you a copy of the private email address I sent to Thorsten.
Regards,
Chris B.
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"Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote in message
news:pan### [at] nospamcom...
> On Tue, 02 May 2006 14:21:02 +0100, Chris B wrote:
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>> Jim, are you in?
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> Sure, I'm willing to help out. One thing we might do because of the
> database issue that Chris mentioned is post the updates here and have one
> person take on the job of entering the changed data, that'd avoid the
> issue of multiple people attempting to edit links simultaneously.
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> Jim
Hi Jim,
I think it's probably best that I get the complete list by email, split up
the list and email out sections that can be updated and subsequently emailed
back to me for collation.
If you're ok with this then can you send an email address to
c_b### [at] btconnectcom
and we'll start an email dialogue on file formats and how best to divvy up
the list, how many each person wants to do and so on.
PM 2Ring could you do the same.
Jim Charter I picked up an email address for you out of the posting.
Regards,
Chris B.
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Can do - e-mail on its way. :-)
Jim
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CSV is probably easiest to consume, and can be imported into a database
with relative ease.
Jim
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