Steve Shelby <ssh### [at] rexnetnet> wrote:
> Warp,
> It is not possible to highlight text and use the scrollbar at the same time.
> Steve

  Read the original instructions:

  1. Click on the starting place, where you want to start to select.
  2. Go to the ending place, ie the last line you want to select (you
     can use the scrollbar to go there).
  3. Shift-click on this ending place.

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ABX,
You're right. I must have read Steve Martin's Post too quickly to understand
it correctly. Please accept my Appologies, everyone (especially Steve
Martin), for being so obtuse.
Steve

"ABX" <abx### [at] abxartpl> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 13:11:03 -0500, "Steve Shelby" <ssh### [at] rexnetnet>
wrote:
> > I found it! Not being one to accept defeat easily, I did a Google search
for
> > "selecting text" and found this: Put the curser at the beginning of the
> > first line. Holding down the shift key, use the scroll bar to move down
to
> > the last line to select. Then simply click below the last line, while
still
> > holding down the shift key, and, voila! The desired number of lines is
> > selected. I tried it, and it works. It takes about five seconds. This is
the
> > *easy* solution I was looking for.;~^}>
>
> Huh ? In what way this is simpler than the method Steve Martin proposed to
you
> in first answer of this thread ? In his method you did exactly the same
except
> pressing Shift once during final click instead of holding it down for
whole
> five seconds.
>
> ABX

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That solution isn't what I'm looking for. When I have very big files (mesh2)
I can't rely on the scrollbar to find the line I want. It's not accurate
enough. Finding (and selecting) the first line is easy - usually I use
'search' for an opening brace. But finding the next closing brace is not
easy. It's "hidden" somewhere in the mess (mesh) and therefore, I end up
using the arrow keys for several minutes to select the right set of lines..

No complaining though.. but you brought up the subject.

Regards,
Hugo

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Hugo,
Try this: Click in front of the first bracket, then go to Search and click
Match Brace, or simply click ctrl+], and it will go to the last bracket of
the mesh. At the bottom of the window there is a box that tells you the line
number, e.g., L:17361. Remember that number. Now go back to the beginning of
the file and click in front of the first line. Now, when you click on the
scrollbar, notice that a box will appear at the middle right of the screen
with the line number in it. As you pull the scrollbar down, the number goes
up. You should be able to get within a hundred or so of where you want to
be, and then you can use the up or down arrow if you need to. I just tried
it and found that it's not hard to get the end of the mesh right within view
by looking at the scrolling page number while using the scrollbar. With a
little practice it becomes a very easy task.
Steve

"Hugo Asm" <hua### [at] post3teledk> wrote in message
news:3f696d72@news.povray.org...
> That solution isn't what I'm looking for. When I have very big files
(mesh2)
> I can't rely on the scrollbar to find the line I want. It's not accurate
> enough. Finding (and selecting) the first line is easy - usually I use
> 'search' for an opening brace. But finding the next closing brace is not
> easy. It's "hidden" somewhere in the mess (mesh) and therefore, I end up
> using the arrow keys for several minutes to select the right set of
lines..
>
> No complaining though.. but you brought up the subject.
>
> Regards,
> Hugo
>
>

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This will probably not answer the question OR have been mentioned
several times before but having read this thread today I realized I have
to do this quite often. I never thought about it until today. Here's
what I do: move the cursor to the start of the selection. Hold Shift
down and move the cursor down. This can be done by simply scrolling with
the down key, scrolling faster with the PgDn key or jumping to the end
of the file with Ctrl-PgDn. When you're at the end of the selection
release the Shift and presto. I guess the relevant point here is that
you don't use the mouse (prevents RSI too).

Perhaps we need a tutorial on scrolling or should this just be part of
the POVRay documentation?

Cheers!

Remco

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Remco de Korte <rem### [at] onwijscom> wrote in
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> This will probably not answer the question OR have been
> mentioned several times before but having read this thread
> today I realized I have to do this quite often. I never
> thought about it until today. Here's what I do: move the
> cursor to the start of the selection. Hold Shift down and
> move the cursor down. This can be done by simply scrolling
> with the down key, scrolling faster with the PgDn key or
> jumping to the end of the file with Ctrl-PgDn. When you're
> at the end of the selection release the Shift and presto. I
> guess the relevant point here is that you don't use the
> mouse (prevents RSI too). 
> 
> Perhaps we need a tutorial on scrolling or should this just
> be part of the POVRay documentation?

Remco,

This reply is not targeted at you but to the entire thread.

What you describe is part of the most mudane functionalities
of windows and whatever happens to run on it (so long as the
authors of said 3rd party software(s) respect the common
windows' way of doing things for basic editing methodes). 

I do think the docs should mention that is uses basic
windows' editing methodes along with anything else it can do
that is not common to windows. These basic functionalities
should be second-nature to most, unless they are also new to
windows. 

This could also apply to any other operating system you may
be using. 

I do believe this entire thread should have been in
povray.newusers to begin with.

My 2 scales :)

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Marc Champagne
marcch.AT.videotron.DOT.ca
Montreal, CANADA

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Marc Champagne wrote:
> 
> Remco,
> 
> This reply is not targeted at you but to the entire thread.
> 

I don't mind, I was just having fun...
I completely agree with what you're saying but somehow this thread had a
sort of bizarre appeal.

Cheers!

Remco

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> These basic functionalities should be second-nature
> to most, unless they are also new to windows.

Perhaps they should, but I've been using Windows for 8 years and still have
only learned the things I'm forced to learn. The things I need to do often.
I think most users haven't taken a course in Windows. We focus on the
software that run on Windows, not Windows itself.

The thread could have gone elsewhere. I agree.

Regards,
Hugo

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Hugo Asm <hua### [at] post3teledk> wrote:
> I think most users haven't taken a course in Windows.

  Why do you think one needs to go to a course in order to learn to
use Windows?
  Besides, I would bet they don't teach these kind of things in those
courses.

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"Hugo Asm" <hua### [at] post3teledk> wrote in
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>> These basic functionalities should be second-nature
>> to most, unless they are also new to windows.
> 
> Perhaps they should, but I've been using Windows for 8
> years and still have only learned the things I'm forced to

I like the word "forced" here :)

> learn. The things I need to do often. I think most users
> haven't taken a course in Windows. We focus on the software
> that run on Windows, not Windows itself. 

Ditto... unfortunetly.

ciao

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Marc Champagne
marcch.AT.videotron.DOT.ca
Montreal, CANADA

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