You don't have a message search?  I couldn't figure what newsreader you have,
unless it's Netscape maybe.  Most any newsreader program should have a search in
it I would think.
It's a good idea because you might still have to have all of the messages on
your computer instead of only the ones set to be kept based on a predetermined
expiration.
Time and again this has been brought up, seems some people say they can always
search all the way back to the beginning, though I'm uncertain how that goes
(maybe they never allow the messages to be cleaned out), and others cannot.

Bob

"Bruce" <dke### [at] sksympaticoca> wrote in message
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| I was just curious how difficult this would be to set up, and how useful
| it might be.
| (...and if this can already be done, I appologize, but I thought that
| the POV group disallowed mirroring of their news-server, so the
| deja-news type server's wouldn't have access...)
|
|
| Many times a topic I had previously ignored has become important. I then
| loaded all 'read' messages, and eye-ball 'scanned' through a few
| thousand messages to see if I've missed anything relevant, (usually
| completely side-tracking myself down other thread's <g>) Would be nice
| to do a search on existing messages within the various POV sponsored
| news groups.
|
| This may also be relevant to the thread about archiving the binaries
| group(s) to CD. Perhaps if they could search the message header's and
| text, it wouldn't require all the effort related to making a CD.
|
|
| Bruce Lamming
|

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Bob Hughes wrote:

>It's a good idea because you might still have to have all of the
>messages on your computer instead of only the ones set to be kept based
>on a predetermined expiration.

If your reader supports "XPAT" search you can do a search on the headers in  
a newsgroup on the newsserver, so no need to download and keep all the 
headers.
A search on the contend though is a different thing.

Ingo

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On Sat, 26 Feb 2000 13:38:56 -0800, Bruce <dke### [at] sksympaticoca> wrote:

>I was just curious how difficult this would be to set up, and how useful
>it might be. 
>(...and if this can already be done, I appologize, but I thought that
>the POV group disallowed mirroring of their news-server, so the
>deja-news type server's wouldn't have access...) 

The text on this server sums up to over two hundred megabytes (headers
included). Imagine having 50 users searching through that. Add the
overhead of compression which is used to save disk space, and you get
a somewhat clear picture of the situation.

It's not impossible, but I don't know if the current hardware would be
able to manage it adequately.


Peter Popov
pet### [at] usanet
ICQ: 15002700

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Bruce wrote:
> 
> I was just curious how difficult this would be to set up, and how useful
> it might be.
> (...and if this can already be done, I appologize, but I thought that
> the POV group disallowed mirroring of their news-server, so the
> deja-news type server's wouldn't have access...)

Personaly I just use the search capabilities of my browser (Netscape).
It won't allow you to search through the message body but it will
allow you to search either for the sender or the subject line. I would
like message body search capabilities but man it might take forever
to get back the results.

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On Sun, 27 Feb 2000 02:01:21 -0800 Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:

>I would
>like message body search capabilities but man it might take forever
>to get back the results.

  Ken, Agent can perform searches within the body of the article, either
within a single group or multiple groups. It doesn't take very long, at
least on my machine. This pertains to messages stored locally on my hard
drive, of course.

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http://www.povray.org - Home of the Persistence of Vision Ray Tracer

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Alan Kong wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 27 Feb 2000 02:01:21 -0800 Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
> 
> >I would
> >like message body search capabilities but man it might take forever
> >to get back the results.
> 
>   Ken, Agent can perform searches within the body of the article, either
> within a single group or multiple groups. It doesn't take very long, at
> least on my machine. This pertains to messages stored locally on my hard
> drive, of course.

I know it is possible but I don't want to have to download the entire
contents of this server to my hard drive until I get a cable modem :)

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Ken Tyler -  1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/

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On Sun, 27 Feb 2000 08:00:46 -0800, Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:

>I know it is possible but I don't want to have to download the entire
>contents of this server to my hard drive until I get a cable modem :)

Oh come on, Ken, it only took me two weeks' nights with my 33.6 :)


Peter Popov
pet### [at] usanet
ICQ: 15002700

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In article <CUe4OGvvcHNPawe7MvSuMt6GRtjN@4ax.com>, Peter Popov 
<pet### [at] usanet> wrote:
>The text on this server sums up to over two hundred megabytes (headers
>included). Imagine having 50 users searching through that. Add the
>overhead of compression which is used to save disk space, and you get
>a somewhat clear picture of the situation.

200 MB would fit quite easily on a CD-ROM. I'd be willing to pay $30 or 
so for a complete archive of the POV news groups, perhaps throw in 
c.g.r.r as well, to fill in the space?

I've also had requests for off-line copies of my POV web pages. An 
archive of POV tutorials pages could fill in that extra 400 MB also :*)

Jerry

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