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So, what's a coco 32? Closest we had here in the States were CoCo 2's and CoCo
3's.
Bill DeWitt wrote:
> Yeah, well... I was using a coco 32 to render spheres and geometric
> shapes in 1983 or so...
>
> Unless you plan to give up in a couple of years, you better get used to
> old people using PovRay...8-)
>
> "omniVERSE" <inv### [at] aol com> wrote in message
> news:38540998@news.povray.org...
> > I am in awe that someone my parents ages uses POV-Ray Trace at all.
> > Actually it's even laughable, but only because I can't picture my parents
> > using POV. Nothing of any geronto-bashing, mind you, as I'm quickly aging
> > here and I like my ever grayer head (first gray hairs showed up in my
> > teens).
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > "mr.art" <mr.### [at] gcinet> wrote in message
> news:3853EFA6.208C3636@gci.net...
> > > First, your name and date are now sorted into the
> > > database.
> > > Second, those on the bottom of the list support
> > > the rest of us.
> > >
> > > Alf Peake wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Near bottom of the list as usual :-\
> > > >
> > > > 14-Mar-1938 Alf Peake Wales, Swansea
> > > >
> > > > Alf
> > > >
> > > > http://www.peake42.freeserve.co.uk
> > > > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Alf_Peake/
> >
> >
--
"My new computer's got the clocks, it rocks
But it was obsolete before I opened the box" - W.A.Y.
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"Jon A. Cruz" <jon### [at] geocitiescom> wrote in message
news:385448FE.DA5436DB@geocities.com...
> So, what's a coco 32? Closest we had here in the States were CoCo 2's and
CoCo
> 3's.
>
I may have mis-named it. It was one of Tandy's first ColorComputers and
it had either 32 kb of memory or maybe it was 16 and I just kept wishing I
had waited and got the 32...
I had to write a program in basic, use it to record information on the
cassette tape and then I used another program to read that info into a
pretty picture. It would do something like 8 colors unless you used "high"
resolution, in which case it drew odd rainbow lines on my little 10"
TV/monitor.
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Bill DeWitt wrote:
> "Jon A. Cruz" <jon### [at] geocitiescom> wrote in message
> news:385448FE.DA5436DB@geocities.com...
> > So, what's a coco 32? Closest we had here in the States were CoCo 2's and
> CoCo
> > 3's.
> >
>
> I may have mis-named it. It was one of Tandy's first ColorComputers and
> it had either 32 kb of memory or maybe it was 16 and I just kept wishing I
> had waited and got the 32...
>
> I had to write a program in basic, use it to record information on the
> cassette tape and then I used another program to read that info into a
> pretty picture. It would do something like 8 colors unless you used "high"
> resolution, in which case it drew odd rainbow lines on my little 10"
> TV/monitor.
The original gray CoCo was just the "TRS-80 Color Computer"
4K RAM for $400 originally. Later it got bumped up to 16k from them. 32K and
then 64K was later available on the after-market.
The CoCo II was white, and had 64K. Then Came the CoCo III with 128K,
expandable to 512K. They also
Those were my first computers. I still have them in here on the shelf within
reach of my chair. :-)
Some of the good things about it:
* At the time, all other 8-bit computers had 256-byte pages, and horrible
indexing, while the CoCo had a Motorolla processor with true 16-bit index
registers (access 64K at once ).
* The tape loading and saving on the CoCo was faster than the Floppy drive on
the Commodore 64.
* Could get OS/9 for it. A real-time, multitasking operating system. Years
ahead of old MS.
--
"My new computer's got the clocks, it rocks
But it was obsolete before I opened the box" - W.A.Y.
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On Sun, 12 Dec 1999 18:26:40 -0800, "Jon A. Cruz"
<jon### [at] geocitiescom> wrote:
>Those were my first computers. I still have them in here on the shelf within
>reach of my chair. :-)
I wonder whatever happened to the Altair that Bill Gates and Paul
Allen used to own... for that matter, I wonder if *anyone* has an Altair
sitting around.
--
Alan - ako### [at] povrayorg - a k o n g <at> p o v r a y <dot> o r g
http://www.povray.org - Home of the Persistence of Vision Ray Tracer
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"Jon A. Cruz" <jon### [at] geocitiescom> wrote :
>
> The original gray CoCo was just the "TRS-80 Color Computer"
> 4K RAM for $400 originally. Later it got bumped up to 16k from them. 32K
and
> then 64K was later available on the after-market.
>
Yeah! That's it! TRS-80 Color Computer 16. With TRS-DOS and Extended
Color BASIC. Right after I got mine they started selling one with some sort
of slot in the side that you could put more memory in...That was probably
the CoCo II.. That was like 20 years ago. It burned out it's power
transformer and I kept meaning to rebuild it but never did.
Next computer I got to play with was the Apple 2E at UCF, took a course
in BASIC so as to satisfy my boss that I knew how to do what I was trying
to talk him into doing... then he didn't want to do it (computer
inventory). Idiot. Industrial supply warehouse and they were writing things
down on little bits of paper...
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Hi Mr. Art.
Just in case you're still collecting data for your list:
Karl Pelzer, November 4th 1970, Germany (not far from where Germany,
Netherlands and Belgium meet)
My problem is that I'll never be that old as I'm looking like ;->
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... and BTW
I started on an ATARI 600 XL and then turned to an ATARI 130XE with wich
I did raytracing. First I transferred a b/w raytracer (simple sphere
over checkered plane) to Atari Basic and did animations with the extra
64kb bankswitching technology of the 130 XE. This program was just a
listing in the german C't magazine which I transferred to the Atari
without knowing what it does.
Later, when I was to manage the ATARI's 256 colors I converted an AMIGA
Basic raytracer to Turbo Basic XL on Atari XE. And even then I didn't
know how it really worked. Just by testing and tweaking I found a method
how to put a 256 color image as a image map on the ground-plane instead
of the checkered floor.
Finally I gave the program to the PD-Bibliotheque of the ABBUC (Atari
Bit Byter User Club)
http://www.atari-computer.de/abbuc/
But with the change to PC I stopped programming.
Karl
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Bob,
Could you please explain what you _exactly_ mean by it being *laughable* my
using POV-Ray at my age?? Are you aware that I had to wait for a very long
time (longer than you are years old) before anything suitable and affordable
was on the market to accomodate my wish for automated calculation????
Are you mocking me?????? >>|((
--
Regards,
Sander
omniVERSE <inv### [at] aolcom> schreef in berichtnieuws
38540998@news.povray.org...
> I am in awe that someone my parents ages uses POV-Ray Trace at all.
> Actually it's even laughable, but only because I can't picture my parents
> using POV. Nothing of any geronto-bashing, mind you, as I'm quickly aging
> here and I like my ever grayer head (first gray hairs showed up in my
> teens).
>
> Bob
>
> "mr.art" <mr.### [at] gcinet> wrote in message
news:3853EFA6.208C3636@gci.net...
> > First, your name and date are now sorted into the
> > database.
> > Second, those on the bottom of the list support
> > the rest of us.
> >
> > Alf Peake wrote:
> > >
> > > Near bottom of the list as usual :-\
> > >
> > > 14-Mar-1938 Alf Peake Wales, Swansea
> > >
> > > Alf
> > >
> > > http://www.peake42.freeserve.co.uk
> > > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Alf_Peake/
>
>
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Yes, I'm still collecting. It helps me get a sense
of community, of neighbors, and friends. I don't
have faces or voices to put with the names, but
I have birthdays and where you live. With some I
keep their coding methods(handcode, modeler, etc).
For those that publish their ICQ #, I keep that
also.(but I don't give them out) I got e-mail
from someone today that wanted to know if I was
the Mr. Art of ""I'm not old enough yet" fame?"
Fame? Me? Well, I guess. But mostly I just wanted
to get to know everybody.
Karl Pelzer wrote:
>
> Hi Mr. Art.
>
> Just in case you're still collecting data for your list:
>
> Karl Pelzer, November 4th 1970, Germany (not far from where Germany,
> Netherlands and Belgium meet)
>
> My problem is that I'll never be that old as I'm looking like ;->
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Oh, no, never. You are a true POVer, guess I could say anyhow.
I was getting a mental image of my parents pecking at the keyboard trying
desparately to render just a basic example scene file or do a sphere {0,1
pigment {color red 1}} (they would no doubt never get the camera or a light
in there to see a self-made scene).
They just happen to be born around mid-1930's is all.
To be fair though my mother manages to do plenty enough on a computer (after
a couple years of my teaching her), just nothing like POV-Ray ever done. My
father... well, he can just get by running a Poker card game himself and get
signed onto AOL and lose himself on the internet once there.
So, yes, there's something quite laughable going on at my parents place when
it comes to the PC :-D
Bob
"Sander" <san### [at] stolscom> wrote in message
news:38556c55@news.povray.org...
> Bob,
>
> Could you please explain what you _exactly_ mean by it being *laughable*
my
> using POV-Ray at my age?? Are you aware that I had to wait for a very long
> time (longer than you are years old) before anything suitable and
affordable
> was on the market to accomodate my wish for automated calculation????
> Are you mocking me?????? >>|((
>
> --
> Regards,
> Sander
>
>
> omniVERSE <inv### [at] aolcom> schreef in berichtnieuws
> 38540998@news.povray.org...
> > I am in awe that someone my parents ages uses POV-Ray Trace at all.
> > Actually it's even laughable, but only because I can't picture my
parents
> > using POV. Nothing of any geronto-bashing, mind you, as I'm quickly
aging
> > here and I like my ever grayer head (first gray hairs showed up in my
> > teens).
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > "mr.art" <mr.### [at] gcinet> wrote in message
> news:3853EFA6.208C3636@gci.net...
> > > First, your name and date are now sorted into the
> > > database.
> > > Second, those on the bottom of the list support
> > > the rest of us.
> > >
> > > Alf Peake wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Near bottom of the list as usual :-\
> > > >
> > > > 14-Mar-1938 Alf Peake Wales, Swansea
> > > >
> > > > Alf
> > > >
> > > > http://www.peake42.freeserve.co.uk
> > > > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Alf_Peake/
> >
> >
>
>
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