The solution to this is rather simple but tedious, spread the
word. 

	Geocities makes its money on ads. Earnings are based upon the
number of impressions, that is, how many people see it. The way
to get them to change that copyright provision is to remove your
website from geocities. That reduces their traffic and therefore
their earnings. Be certain to tell them why you are removing your
website when you do it. 

	Options, find a local ISP that gives webspace instead of one
that does not. The price with and without is usually the same.
Offering webspace is a $300.00 HD and an hour to configure it.
Some places just don't want the maintenance hassle. 

	Buy webspace. Despite AOL's really shitty webserver you get five
user names with 2Megs each for your total of 10M. AND since the
lawsuit they have really good connection service. AND they have
switched to internet standard IP connections meaning you can
connect to AOL and use ALL of your non-AOL software, treating AOL
the same as a local ISP. 

	Before it sounds like I am praising AOL, the above and the extra
name anonymity is about the only thing AOL is good for. 

	Other web space is usually $20 per 10M per month and $1 or $2
per month per meg over that. Keep your JPEG quality no better
than needed for good viewing and 10M should hold 150 or more
images. If you want to publish more than that, you need a life
outside of POV. 

	Other free webspace. I have come across a few of them in the
last year, xoom.com comes to mind. There are others. 

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You didn't mention that AOL is offering an additional 2 megabytes for
webspaces of each screen name having a web page linked up with its
"Hometown". Total of 4 megabytes per screen name. The catch? Hometown
AOL slows down the page used to link to it. The cure? Make tiny nothing
web pages for that purpose. The gotcha? AOL reviews them and a "nothing"
web page won't cut it I'm afraid.


Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
> you get five
> user names with 2Megs each for your total of 10M.

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On Thu, 01 Jul 1999 00:31:49 -0400, Matt Giwer wrote:
>	Options, find a local ISP that gives webspace instead of one
>that does not. The price with and without is usually the same.
>Offering webspace is a $300.00 HD and an hour to configure it.
>Some places just don't want the maintenance hassle. 

Speaking as someone whose ISP seems to have done exactly that (buy 
a computer, slap a big HD in it, set it up, and forget it) I would 
recommend finding an ISP with some competent sysadmins instead. :)

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In article <377b6cbd@news.povray.org>, par### [at] fwicom wrote:
>Speaking as someone whose ISP seems to have done exactly that (buy 
>a computer, slap a big HD in it, set it up, and forget it) I would 
>recommend finding an ISP with some competent sysadmins instead. :)

For a non-local non-dialup ISP (unless you live in Austin or Houston), I
have found http://www.io.com/ to be generally good. (They have their ups
and downs, however.) You can get a telnet-only account for $10/month,
which includes 5 or 10 megabytes of space.

I have had the following non-dialup ISP recommended to me a number of
times, but haven't tried them out myself yet: http://www.pair.com/ They
are also very inexpensive.

Jerry

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Matt Giwer <mgi### [at] giwersworldorg> wrote in message
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> Options, find a local ISP that gives webspace instead of one
> that does not. The price with and without is usually the same.
> Offering webspace is a $300.00 HD and an hour to configure it.
> Some places just don't want the maintenance hassle.

I don't know about other places, but my ISP offers an unlimited number of
unique e-mail address (i.e. not just aliases) as well as an unlimited amount

plenty of free ISPs (only pay normal phone charges) over here, with about 15
megs being the typical amount of space being offered.. and no adverts at
all.


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>I don't know about other places, but my ISP offers an unlimited number of
>unique e-mail address (i.e. not just aliases) as well as an unlimited
amount

>plenty of free ISPs (only pay normal phone charges) over here, with about
15
>megs being the typical amount of space being offered.. and no adverts at
>all.
>
>
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I wish I was there... over here you get nothing for free when it comes to
the net and everything is overpriced (even the large corporations such as
Telstra who CAN afford to offer low prices seem to offer higher prices than
everyone else... interesting that...).

Generally the going deal here is $20 (or usually more) per month for 10 MB
and 10 email addresses, but there is usually some other agreement, such as
you must have a dial-up account with them (add an extra $35-45 per month for
unlimited hours, limited downloads of usually about 150 MB and 40c per MB
after that...)

Gets expensive quickly... :-(

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Lance Birch <lan### [at] usanet> wrote in message
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> >I don't know about other places, but my ISP offers an unlimited number of
> >unique e-mail address (i.e. not just aliases) as well as an unlimited
> amount

> >plenty of free ISPs (only pay normal phone charges) over here, with about
> 15
> >megs being the typical amount of space being offered.. and no adverts at
> >all.
> >
> >
> >/\/\/\//
>
> I wish I was there... over here you get nothing for free when it comes to
> the net and everything is overpriced (even the large corporations such as
> Telstra who CAN afford to offer low prices seem to offer higher prices
than
> everyone else... interesting that...).
>
> Generally the going deal here is $20 (or usually more) per month for 10 MB
> and 10 email addresses, but there is usually some other agreement, such as
> you must have a dial-up account with them (add an extra $35-45 per month
for
> unlimited hours, limited downloads of usually about 150 MB and 40c per MB
> after that...)
>
> Gets expensive quickly... :-(

It used to be like that over here too... till one company (FreeServe)
started offering what its name suggests last September.  It had something
like 600,000 new users in 3 months... with well over a million now - and
beat AOL as the most popular ISP in the UK quite convincingly :)  Now loads
of companies have almost had to follow, including mine :)

Tell you want... start up your own little free ISP - and see what happens ;)

*Ahem*... but we digress.


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