Hello, I have a question, having grown tired of the decisively crude POV-Ray
Windows interface, I sought to run POV-Ray from within TextPad, a highly
customizable programmers editor (thanks for the idea Spider). It actually
works, however if I could tweak the POV-Ray UI just a little more, I would
be able to achieve precisely the goal I am hoping to attend, please read on.

Are there any command switches to supress the POV-Ray Message Windows
(DOS/WIN) and instead simply have all information simply displayed in a DOS
fashion to the standard output, in this case the monitor? In short, I am
hoping to completely hide the POV-Ray windows, and instead have all of the
pertinent information written directly to a black DOS screen, so that it can
be captured by TextPad and filled into the Console it supplies!

Thanks in advance -
Please respond via email also!

- Tim -

PS. If someone has any ideas on how I could achieve this, please let me
know! If the DOS version has the capability to supress the fancy 'curses'
style windowing system, then I will also need to find out if the rendered
image can be displayed in a Windows9x DOS box, as opposed to full screen.

Thanks again!

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Only thing that comes to mind is the -GAfilename to turn off text streams
or output to a file. There's something about redirecting this output to a
file as well in the Directing Text Streams to Files section of the Windows
versions Scene help file.


Timothy Farley wrote:
> 
> Hello, I have a question, having grown tired of the decisively crude POV-Ray
> Windows interface, I sought to run POV-Ray from within TextPad, a highly
> customizable programmers editor (thanks for the idea Spider). It actually
> works, however if I could tweak the POV-Ray UI just a little more, I would
> be able to achieve precisely the goal I am hoping to attend, please read on.
> 
> Are there any command switches to supress the POV-Ray Message Windows
> (DOS/WIN) and instead simply have all information simply displayed in a DOS
> fashion to the standard output, in this case the monitor? In short, I am
> hoping to completely hide the POV-Ray windows, and instead have all of the
> pertinent information written directly to a black DOS screen, so that it can
> be captured by TextPad and filled into the Console it supplies!
> 
> Thanks in advance -
> Please respond via email also!
> 
> - Tim -
> 
> PS. If someone has any ideas on how I could achieve this, please let me
> know! If the DOS version has the capability to supress the fancy 'curses'
> style windowing system, then I will also need to find out if the rendered
> image can be displayed in a Windows9x DOS box, as opposed to full screen.
> 
> Thanks again!

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On Sun, 16 May 1999 22:32:07 -0400, "Timothy Farley"
<loc### [at] commkeynet> wrote:

>Are there any command switches to supress the POV-Ray Message Windows
>(DOS/WIN) and instead simply have all information simply displayed in a DOS
>fashion to the standard output, in this case the monitor?

  See docs sections 3.2.5.2 and 3.2.5.3 for a list of command line
switches or keywords to be used in an .ini file. I have the messages
directed to file for each trace, rather than to the console.
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Alan Kong wrote:
> 
>   See docs sections 3.2.5.2 and 3.2.5.3 for a list of command line
> switches or keywords to be used in an .ini file. I have the messages
> directed to file for each trace, rather than to the console.
> --
> Alan

   Your reply just reminded me of a question I have been meaning to ask
for a while now. When I upgraded from Pov v3.01 to Pov v3.1 The help
file that I have is not in a version that allows you to quote chapter
and verse like the previous version did and yours still seems to allow.


The help file has this to say about itself:
== - - > This help file was produced from HTML source by WebTwin


  Is there another win help file available that will allow access
to the doumentation pages via section and paragraph without having
to go through through the menu selection process for each topic I
wish to look up such as the current version force me to so do ?
  I much preferred the previous version and would like to see a return
to those simpler times when you could scroll through the entire help
file with only one finger resting on a down or up arrow on the key board.

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Ken Tyler

mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net

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Ken,

I recommend using "Help Topics/Find" to quick jump to a section in the help
file. The topics are accessible through keywords, for example to get to the
float functions section, just type "float" and select "float functions" from
the list that comes up.

There's also the option to use the help file in other formats, i.e word, html
and pdf format. (I know at least the word version alows you to "scroll down
by just resting one finger on the keyboard".)

- Mikael.

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You could try to compile the UNIX text version of povray which outputs
all the text to stdout/stderr.

-- 
main(i,_){for(_?--i,main(i+2,"FhhQHFIJD|FQTITFN]zRFHhhTBFHhhTBFysdB"[i]
):5;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/

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You might just have an idea there Mikael, if I can find the source for a
UNIX version that simply displays the text to stdout, I might be able to
compile it with little or no changes using djgpp under MS-DOS, this MIGHT
work, thanks for the idea.

- Tim -

Mikael Carneholm <sa9### [at] idautbhbse> wrote in message
news:373FD891.66AE346E@ida.utb.hb.se...
> Ken,
>
> I recommend using "Help Topics/Find" to quick jump to a section in the
help
> file. The topics are accessible through keywords, for example to get to
the
> float functions section, just type "float" and select "float functions"
from
> the list that comes up.
>
> There's also the option to use the help file in other formats, i.e word,
html
> and pdf format. (I know at least the word version alows you to "scroll
down
> by just resting one finger on the keyboard".)
>
> - Mikael.
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Mikael Carneholm
> Dep. of Computer Science

>
> http://www.studenter.hb.se/~arch
> E-mail: sa9### [at] idautbhbse
>
>

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On Mon, 17 May 1999 00:03:08 -0700, Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:

>Your reply just reminded me of a question I have been meaning to ask
>for a while now. When I upgraded from Pov v3.01 to Pov v3.1 The help
>file that I have is not in a version that allows you to quote chapter
>and verse like the previous version did and yours still seems to allow.

  Wanna hear something strange? I'm glad you mentioned this because I
never noticed the change in the version of the docs that come with
POV-Ray for Windows because my personal preference is to use the .pdf
(Adobe Acrobat) version on my Windows machine. I like to watch the
page number counter at the bottom of Acrobat Reader spin along when
it's performing a search for me <s>.

  I didn't realize that with the POV-Win Help there is no longer any
way to reference the section numbers! I'll make an inquiry in the back
office to see what the Team thinks about this.
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Alan Kong wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 17 May 1999 00:03:08 -0700, Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
> 
> >Your reply just reminded me of a question I have been meaning to ask
> >for a while now. When I upgraded from Pov v3.01 to Pov v3.1 The help
> >file that I have is not in a version that allows you to quote chapter
> >and verse like the previous version did and yours still seems to allow.
> 
>   Wanna hear something strange? I'm glad you mentioned this because I
> never noticed the change in the version of the docs that come with
> POV-Ray for Windows because my personal preference is to use the .pdf
> (Adobe Acrobat) version on my Windows machine. I like to watch the
> page number counter at the bottom of Acrobat Reader spin along when
> it's performing a search for me <s>.
> 
>   I didn't realize that with the POV-Win Help there is no longer any
> way to reference the section numbers! I'll make an inquiry in the back
> office to see what the Team thinks about this.
> --
> Alan

  I would really appreciate it if you would. There are many times I
look up a proceedure in the docs when replying to someones question
and then proceed to tell the person in need of help to read such and
such section if my explaination is not clear enough. It is nearly
impossible to direct them to the exact location because there is no
way to know where it is since the change to the new help files.

Thank you for taking an interest in this issue Alan.


  One thing I have wondered and never went so far as trying for
myself is if the Win Word version of the docs is displayed internaly
or does the system have to spawn an outside application each time
you want to use the online documentation. If you had to go with an
external progam each time that sure would be a lot of wasted time
waiting for a file the size of the Pov docs to load and become usable.
The current system becomes available in about 8 sec internaly which
is a bearable amount of time to wait.

-- 
Ken Tyler

mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net

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Heh, uh,...Ken? I printed out the docs when I got 3.01. <G>
I won't do it again, but there are a majority of sections still valid. :)

Thanks for bringing this up. The new method drives me nuts.

GrimDude
vos### [at] arkansasnet

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