The "official" POV-Ray 1.0 executable I have here is dated July 3, 1992.
So, good timing for a 4th of July holiday in the U.S. anyhow. Well,
maybe... it's actually a Wednesday in 2002. Also on Wednesday of 2001, May
16, is the anniversary date of DKBTrace 2.12 (8 years old next week),
which I suppose is the true father of POV; though someone with the
POV-Team surely knows this better. Still, the POV version 1.0 sounds most
likely to be called upon as the anniversary celebrity.


TonyB wrote:
> 
> Poor little me. Stuck in Panama. I'm probably the only person who uses
> POV-Ray in this country. Well, I taught a friend, but he prefers his 3D
> Studio. *sigh*
> 
> I can fly to the USA for a convention, but don't expect me to go to Europe
> or Australia (though it would be very cool), and much less to pay to get in.
> I don't think I could meet anybody at any non-POV conventions, since I don't
> think I can afford it. It would have to be a 'freeware' convention with no
> entry fee. OR, we could meet just outside of the SIGGRAPH convention! ;)
> 
> It would be nice if we could meet on an anniversary of POV-Ray. How old is
> it anyway? 1999 - 1992 = 7 years! OK, so let's say on it's 10th anniversary
> (day, month, and year) we could all meet somewhere. Hey, why not here in
> Panama? (...brain to Anthony... ...brain to Anthony... dream on...) All you
> would have to buy is a 2-way plane ticket. After that, things are pretty
> cheap here. You wouldn't have to bring a lot of cash. I hope to see you in
> twenty-two (2002)! It rimes. Cool.

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This sounds very difficult to pull off with any level of satisfaction.
  I envision a day when our newsgroup browsers will have a plug-in for video
conferencing. Maybe just a photo, but live video preferred, as you are
online and posting. It's not the same, I realize. Still, the starving artist
profile still applies here. :(

GrimDude
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Sadly so. Just like Australia etc. I can't imagine undertaking such a trip
just for this purpose. Unless I'll strike it rich within the next few
years... Yeah, right.
Let's face it, the POV community is just too international. Local
conventions - perhaps. But a universal one is not likely to happen anytime
soon. If not in a video-conference form. But many people lack the necessary
connection speed for this.

Margus

Lewis wrote in message <3735ACE8.F215E5EF@netvision.net.il>...
>There is no way in hell I'm going to fly to the US. It's too far.

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Margus Ramst wrote:
> 
> Sadly so. Just like Australia etc. I can't imagine undertaking such a trip
> just for this purpose. Unless I'll strike it rich within the next few
> years... Yeah, right.
> Let's face it, the POV community is just too international. Local
> conventions - perhaps. 

Well then, there you have it. Since Lewis won't be back for a couple of years
(poor guy) I suggest he starts arranging a festival situated on the moon or
somewhere else in space scheduled as soon the average POV-er can afford such a
trip. 

But a universal one is not likely to happen anytime
> soon. 

Never say never.

If not in a video-conference form. But many people lack the necessary
> connection speed for this.

Nah. That's what you have these groups for.
> 
> Margus
> 
> Lewis wrote in message <3735ACE8.F215E5EF@netvision.net.il>...
> >There is no way in hell I'm going to fly to the US. It's too far.

BTW if anyone is interested in local get-togethers why not start organizing such
a thing at a smaller scale and see where that leads. Imagine: you've spent
you're last nickle on a ticket to the POV-convention somewhere on Easter Island
to find once you get there the whole group consists of even greater buttholes
then you had imagined.
There has been a very feeble hint of some sort of small convention on the low
lands. But that was Enschede, they would do anything there to get to a party ;-)

Groetn,

Remco

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You speak wisely, maybe moreso than you realize. Think of the cost to
travel then compare with a video conference upgrade. By that reasoning
alone a "real" conference, even at local levels, would be nonsense.
Whereas the continued useability of such hardware/software could finally
get some of us penny-pinchers into the 21st century at long last. Only
thing stopping me right now is the money I'm afraid to waste. Well, that,
and the fact I'm not sure I could hook it all up okay and actually see
anyone or them me.


GrimDude wrote:
> 
>   This sounds very difficult to pull off with any level of satisfaction.
>   I envision a day when our newsgroup browsers will have a plug-in for video
> conferencing. Maybe just a photo, but live video preferred, as you are
> online and posting. It's not the same, I realize. Still, the starving artist
> profile still applies here. :(
> 
> GrimDude
> vos### [at] arkansasnet

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> 
> Well then, there you have it. Since Lewis won't be back for a couple of years
> (poor guy) I suggest he starts arranging a festival situated on the moon or
> somewhere else in space scheduled as soon the average POV-er can afford such a
> trip.

First of all, although I *am* a poor guy, IF I get to do what I might be
doing in the army, then I'm gonna have fun.. I might work in
Intelligence as a programmer or developer, and maybe even get to be the
on writing the next-generation military 3d simulation applications. Who
knows?

What am I saying? I should face it. A poor guy.

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>Well, anyway, I must remind you not to do anything between
June 2000 and
>2003, because I can't come.

:) Getting pretentious?

Julius

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>>If not in a video-conference form. But many people lack
the necessary
>>connection speed for this.

>Nah. That's what you have these groups for.

And for real-time conversation... isn't there an irc-box for
povray?

>BTW if anyone is interested in local get-togethers why not
start organizing such
>a thing at a smaller scale and see where that leads.

Seems to me this is the only realizable sort of
get-together.

>Imagine: you've spent
>you're last nickle on a ticket to the POV-convention
somewhere on Easter Island
>to find once you get there the whole group consists of even
greater buttholes
>then you had imagined.

Add that to the fact that you're stuck on Easter Island and
you're sure to have a great time! :)

>There has been a very feeble hint of some sort of small
convention on the low
>lands. But that was Enschede, they would do anything there
to get to a party ;-)

And Enschede (do not try to pronounce this correctly unless
you're a Dutchy, it might result in serious throat damage)
is not one of my favourite hangouts either... al die boeren
:)
By the way, I believe the number (and density) of pov users
is relatively high in Holland, so it might be much easier to
realize a meeting than in the USA... I could be wrong though

Just wondering... would I really like to meet you all?
Hmmm.. I'll have to think that through thoroughly... :)

Julius

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Julius Klatte wrote:
> 
> >>If not in a video-conference form. But many people lack
> the necessary
> >>connection speed for this.
> 
> >Nah. That's what you have these groups for.
> 
> And for real-time conversation... isn't there an irc-box for
> povray?
> 
> >BTW if anyone is interested in local get-togethers why not
> start organizing such
> >a thing at a smaller scale and see where that leads.
> 
> Seems to me this is the only realizable sort of
> get-together.
> 
> >Imagine: you've spent
> >you're last nickle on a ticket to the POV-convention
> somewhere on Easter Island
> >to find once you get there the whole group consists of even
> greater buttholes
> >then you had imagined.
> 
> Add that to the fact that you're stuck on Easter Island and
> you're sure to have a great time! :)
> 
> >There has been a very feeble hint of some sort of small
> convention on the low
> >lands. But that was Enschede, they would do anything there
> to get to a party ;-)
> 
> And Enschede (do not try to pronounce this correctly unless
> you're a Dutchy, it might result in serious throat damage)
> is not one of my favourite hangouts either... al die boeren
> :)
> By the way, I believe the number (and density) of pov users
> is relatively high in Holland, so it might be much easier to
> realize a meeting than in the USA... I could be wrong though
> 
> Just wondering... would I really like to meet you all?
> Hmmm.. I'll have to think that through thoroughly... :)
> 
> Julius

If you're ready thinking:
  we could set up something in Rotterdam. I think I can arrange a place to stay

Perhaps even visit V2.  
Any interested lowlanders? 
(no, that's not lowlife)

Remco

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Alan Kong wrote:
> 
>   SIGGRAPH99 will feature a discussion by Jensen on his photon mapping
> technique and he will talk about material not covered in existing
> papers written by him. This might make for some neat additions or
> modifications to Nathan's existing photon mapping beta.

I seriously considered going to Siggraph this year, but the cost of the
trip changed my mind.  :-(

-Nathan

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