Nieminen Mika wrote in message <6jclh4$dah$1@oz.aussie.org>...
>  I'd like to participate, but I don't know where to sign on :)


Check out the brand-new homepage :-)
http://www.algonet.se/~jhubert/MovieProject

Johannes.

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In article <01bd7a92$0020b7c0$8c00a8c0@shindo.ddlinks.co.uk>,
"Scott Hill" <sco### [at] ddlinkscouk> wrote:

>	You know this was all inevitable really, just run the word POVRAY through
>an MS spelling checker and you'll see what I mean. ;-) or should that be
>;-(

What does it do, turn it into Poverty?  (I don't have any MS stuff.)

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Yes, I know the anim you're talking about.  It's one of Pixar's most famous.
Someone entered an animation (it won) in the Australian Film Festival last
year.  It used the same model and was rendered with Lightwave.  It hopped
about a bit trying to trap a Lego man.  That is, until the Lego man pick up
a pencil and stabbed it in the glob!

I don't know about the chair though...

I liked the way Disney did Lumieur in Beauty and the Beast.  The candle
really seemed to 'live'.  Speaking of Beauty and the Beast, I remember there
was a nice 3D animation of the "Dancing Hall".  It looked great!

--
Lance Birch
Remove the smiley to e-mail.
http://www1.tpgi.com.au/users/ambient/lance

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On 10 May 1998 18:54:30 GMT, "Gary Shannon" <reb### [at] teleportcom>
wrote:
Oh wow even better. A movie-making web site, with all the tips and
tricks conjoured up by everyone making animations. I hope somebody
with more skill than I can offer picks this up and runs with it!


>There seem to be a handfull of people interested in a group movie making
>project.  Any voluteers to coordinate the project? (I guess what we need is
>a "producer" to spearhead the whole thing.)
>
>Maybe a central web-page or newsgroup to provide a meeting place for people
>interested in the project?  A place to exchange ideas and information,
>divide up the tasks, etc. etc.....
>
>--Gary.
>
>Lance Birch <:-)Lan### [at] tpgicomau> wrote in article
><6j46gm$r6a$1@oz.aussie.org>...
>> You mean you're going to give us your CPU? ;-)
>> 
>> But seriously, I'd be happy to help too.
>> 
>> --
>> Lance Birch
>> Remove the smiley to e-mail.
>> http://www1.tpgi.com.au/users/ambient/lance
>> 
>> 
>> 

Cheers,

Cliff Bowman
Why not pay my 3D Dr Who site a visit at
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Dimension/7855/
PS change ".duffnet" to ".net" if replying via e-mail

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On Thu, 14 May 1998 07:11:15 +1200, "Fran & Melissa"
<ffi### [at] ihugconz> wrote:

>
>Lance Birch <:-)Lan### [at] tpgicomau> wrote in message
><6j90qv$7ja$1@oz.aussie.org>...
>>Back to the character think though, maybe we could make a kind of episode
>>(or movie) of figurines, like the one from the Flic elwood.flc by (wait a
>>second I'll check the official POV-Ray CD! Don't you love that pattern on
>>the CD?) Mathew Kaustinen.
>>
>>I've made a similar model (it's nearly exactly the same because I have the
>>same model sitting on my desk in front of me right now!)
>
>
>I remember seeing small anims on TV a LONG time ago. And they used abstract
>objects to project an idea. 2 of the best I liked were the large desk lamp,
>small desk lamp and a ball. The large desk lamp was the mother/father, the
>small desk lamp was the child playing with the ball. The other one was a
>deck chair meeting a lake for the first time, putting a leg in and pulling
>it out. Even these objects normally have no character, how they were used
>created a whole new aspect to them. Meaning there could be storys about desk
>objects etc. No need to use people. THE Attack of the Killer Pots.... 8-)
>
>
Attack of the pepper pots has been done, in a way...
Cheers,

Cliff Bowman
Why not pay my 3D Dr Who site a visit at
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Dimension/7855/
PS change ".duffnet" to ".net" if replying via e-mail

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On Mon, 11 May 1998 21:36:36 +1000, "Lance Birch"
<:-)Lan### [at] tpgicomau> wrote:
Well, there are quite a few amateur SF story writers on the net. My
own favourite (an odd SF show from Britain called "Doctor Who") has a
fairly rich supporting fan base who produce not only written stories
but also audio dramas.

At the moment I'm currently struggling to learn enough about POV-Ray
to do a decent title sequence for an amatuer video - but I'm sure
there's a surprising amount of help "out there" if you but look for
it. If anyone wants to speak to me about producing even a failry short
show please do so - but be aware I've limited budget and skills
(freeware is the order of the day here). I've had one fan-fiction
author offer to come up with ideas if I can do the modelling, but I'm
seriously lacking in the time and skill to do so. I suspect a generic
less British-oriented "movie" might be better appreciated here tho :(


Cheers,

Cliff Bowman
Why not pay my 3D Dr Who site a visit at
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Dimension/7855/
PS change ".duffnet" to ".net" if replying via e-mail

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Peter Murray <pet### [at] table76demoncouk> wrote in article
<B18### [at] table76demoncouk>...
> In article <01bd7a92$0020b7c0$8c00a8c0@shindo.ddlinks.co.uk>,
> "Scott Hill" <sco### [at] ddlinkscouk> wrote:
> 
> >	You know this was all inevitable really, just run the word POVRAY
through
> >an MS spelling checker and you'll see what I mean. ;-) or should that be
> >;-(
> 
> What does it do, turn it into Poverty?  (I don't have any MS stuff.)
> 

	BING! Someone give that man a prize ! (if only for managing to avoid MS)

-- 
Scott Hill
Sco### [at] DDLinkscouk
Software Engineer (and all round nice guy)

"The best trick the devil ever pulled was convincing people he didn't
exist..."
								- Verbal Kint.

"the Internet is here so we can waste time talking about nothing in 
 particular when we should be working" - Marcus Hill.

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Greetings All!

povray.org admin team wrote:

> "POV-Ray is free... the internet isn't!"

I just had this Idea when surfing last night. On a site I bumped into the
Amazon.com Association Banner. In short Amazon.com wants to expand their
sales ground by borrowing webspace from you from banners to a complete
bookstore with books in your (as in anybody's) expert area. You then earn
referral percentages on any books bought as a result of this.

Wouldn't this be an idea for the povray.org (irtc.org) sites? The admin
teams and others could write comments/reviews of 3D related books and the
povray.org (irtc.org) would benefit from these referral fees and thus
keeping down the cost of running them.

I do not know how much should be on the site it self and how much is run
through amazon.com's site so ofcourse a traffic study would have to be
done (no point in paying 100 dollars extra in traffic fees for 90 dollars
earnt in referral fees).

Hope this is an interesting input.

On another note:

How much space would a distribution point need for the official releases?
In Total and for each platform?

Best Regards

Jan Rasmussen
--
Jan Rasmussen
jif### [at] post4teledk
http://home4.inet.tele.dk/jiffy

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In article <35416296.3926425@news.povray.org>, new### [at] povrayorg (povray.org admin
team) wrote:
>"POV-Ray is free... the internet isn't!"
>
>An open letter from POV-Team coordinator
>Chris Young
>
- deluxo snip -

They could follow the model of TUCOWS. By having one small "core" site and 
numerous near-identical, well-publicized mirrors, they could cut bandwidth 
quite a bit and increase service (closer site, faster loads). Problem solved.

Rudy G. Fleminger
Povray User since 1996
fle### [at] shianetorg

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povray.org admin team wrote:
> 
> "POV-Ray is free... the internet isn't!"
> 
> An open letter from POV-Team coordinator
> Chris Young
> 
>         One of my greatest pleasures as POV-Team coordinator is the
> joyful emails I get from people who are surprised and grateful that
> such a great program is free.  Even in an impersonal medium like
> email, you can feel the joy and amazement when they see what a free
> program can do.  Its like Santa just brought them a wonderful free toy
> for grown-ups!
> 
>         It reminds me of my early years growing up in the late '50s in
> middle-class, midwest, suburban America where my life as a 5 year old
> was so carefree.  We weren't rich but there was always food, clothes,
> and toys in abundance.  Relatives were generous on birthdays, Santa
> delivered free stuff each year and when you wanted a gum ball at the
> store, Mom always had an extra penny to put in the machine.
> 
>         It really shocked me one day when I saw Mom give money to the
> milk man.  I asked why and Mom said "You gotta pay for it silly!".  I
> though milk delivery was a free service from the government!  Further
> investigation revealed that we don't pay the mail man but that stamps
> cost money.  You don't pay the garbage man but there was something
> called taxes involved there too.  How horrible!
> 
>         Somehow the internet community has adopted that same innocent
> idea that I had at age 5 that everything is free or at least very
> inexpensive.  Its true that for $15-$20 a month I can get unlimited
> access, email and even my own home page.  However once you create
> something people want to see, the costs can skyrocket.
> 
>         Team member Chris Cason has managed to negotiate various deals
> to maintain our sites ftp.povray.org and www.povray.org for the past
> several years.  Proceeds from CD-ROM sales and the small income from
> our CompuServe GO POVRAY forum have helped to subsidize the expense
> but recently things have gone way beyond the Team's ability to
> support.
> 
>         In a recent month, we used over 100 gigabytes of bandwidth at
> a cost of over $1,200 per month!  Clearly we aren't going to sell that
> many CDs on a continual basis.  We've tried to minimize our site to
> improve things but that's just a temporary fix.  We hope to do later
> round beta testing and eventually full public release of POV-Ray 3.1
> at povray.org which will make matters even worse.
>         It is painful for me to be so blunt but I must remind everyone
> that POV-Ray existed before povray.org and POV-Ray can continue
> without povray.org if need be.  We are close to folding up the whole
> operation unless we can get corporate sponsorship for the site.
>         We do not want individual donations from users.  It would be
> too hard to handle hundreds of $5-$10 donations.  Also the POV-Team is
> not officially incorporated either as profit or non-profit.  Donations
> can create tax problems for us.  Here are a few suggestions on how you
> can help -
> 
>   o if you work in the industry (or any industry that could benefit
>      from sponsoring some of the www.povray.org costs) you should
>      talk to your employers about sponsorship.
> 
>   o ditto for advertising. if you have a product, talk to your
>     employers about possibly advertising on the site.
> 
>   o if you work in the retail industry, you could lobby their buyers
>      to consider making a purchase of some IRTC CD's for resale.
> 
>         Our hope is that if a large bunch of users start lobbying
> their bosses, we might see some things happen.  Please contact us at
> w10### [at] povrayorg if you can help.
> 
>         The important thing to remember during this crisis is that the
> 5-year-old kid in me and in the other POV-Team members is still fully
> committed to keeping POV-Ray itself fully free for the 5-year-old kids
> in you.  We will not sell POV-Ray itself, but it is beginning to cost
> us quite a bit of money just to offer it to you for free.  If we hope
> to be able to deliver it for free, we're going to need some help.
>         cy
> 
> p.s. feel ree to re-post this to other newsgroups or online services.


I'm dumb as wood and poor as dirt ,but I'm very grateful for the povray
freeware because otherwise I do'nt think I'd be able to learn 3d
graphics without the availability of this fine piece of freeware.

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