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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Trio
Date: 31 Dec 2014 04:51:22
Message: <54a3c71a$1@news.povray.org>
On 22/12/2014 18:49, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 08:23:58 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>

>> A truly, American solution. :-P
>
> But of course.  Every red-blooded American knows that the way you put a
> fire out is by adding more gasoline.  ;)
>

That's one way of breaking the fire triangle. Burn off all the oxygen.
It's a bit extreme but interesting to see from a distance.



>> LOL You sound rightly P'd off with that one.
>
> You think? ;)
>

Yes, reading the subtly between the lines. I get that impression ;-)


>> Use automatic gun detectors in all public places.
>
> Automatic gun detectors with their own firepower?  Have you not seen
> Terminator? ;)
>

No, I've not. But I have read a lot of 1950's and 60's SF. So I know 
that I am only wishing on you. What you have already prophesied. :-P



>> I have been straining my mind to remember the comic charterer, who could
>> have done that.
>
> The Knifekateer.  (A common character in the comic strip "Basic
> Instructions" - http://basicinstructions.net/)
>
> Then again, the superheroes in that comic, when they appear, aren't that
> "super", so it seems that the Knifekateer wouldn't be able to manage
> it. ;)
>

No. It was a local comic. Some young teuchter lad running around the 
Highlands, righting wrongs and breaking unnoticed hearts.



>
> I've got pretty good aim, or used to - though the second time skeet
> shooting, I didn't do so well.  It helps to hold the shotgun tight in
> your *shoulder*, not your upper arm.  Doing the latter will give you a
> very sore arm, and you won't be able to hit *anything* you intend to.
>

Even I knew that.
I had an imaginary lesson from a Yorkshire farmer. When I was working 
offshore.


-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Trio
Date: 31 Dec 2014 12:54:40
Message: <54a43860$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 31 Dec 2014 09:51:19 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 22/12/2014 18:49, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 08:23:58 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>
>>> A truly, American solution. :-P
>>
>> But of course.  Every red-blooded American knows that the way you put a
>> fire out is by adding more gasoline.  ;)
>>
>>
> That's one way of breaking the fire triangle. Burn off all the oxygen.
> It's a bit extreme but interesting to see from a distance.

It works more effectively with explosives, so I hear.  That's how they 
put out some of the big oil fires in Kuwait after the first gulf war, 
IIRC.

>>> LOL You sound rightly P'd off with that one.
>>
>> You think? ;)
>>
>>
> Yes, reading the subtly between the lines. I get that impression ;-)

Oh, good, I was afraid I might be being too subtle. ;)

>>> Use automatic gun detectors in all public places.
>>
>> Automatic gun detectors with their own firepower?  Have you not seen
>> Terminator? ;)
>>
>>
> No, I've not. But I have read a lot of 1950's and 60's SF. So I know
> that I am only wishing on you. What you have already prophesied. :-P

Fortunately, Canada is only a 4 hour drive away for me  now. ;)

>>> I have been straining my mind to remember the comic charterer, who
>>> could have done that.
>>
>> The Knifekateer.  (A common character in the comic strip "Basic
>> Instructions" - http://basicinstructions.net/)
>>
>> Then again, the superheroes in that comic, when they appear, aren't
>> that "super", so it seems that the Knifekateer wouldn't be able to
>> manage it. ;)
>>
>>
> No. It was a local comic. Some young teuchter lad running around the
> Highlands, righting wrongs and breaking unnoticed hearts.

I liked my answer better. ;)

>> I've got pretty good aim, or used to - though the second time skeet
>> shooting, I didn't do so well.  It helps to hold the shotgun tight in
>> your *shoulder*, not your upper arm.  Doing the latter will give you a
>> very sore arm, and you won't be able to hit *anything* you intend to.
>>
>>
> Even I knew that.
> I had an imaginary lesson from a Yorkshire farmer. When I was working
> offshore.

The weird thing is that I got it right the first time, and really 
couldn't miss.  Nobody noticed I was holding the gun wrong the second 
time, or they were taking great joy out of seeing that I couldn't hit the 
broad side of a barn and couldn't see why. :)

Jim



-- 
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Trio
Date: 31 Dec 2014 13:19:50
Message: <54a43e46$1@news.povray.org>
On 31/12/2014 17:54, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Dec 2014 09:51:19 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>

>> That's one way of breaking the fire triangle. Burn off all the oxygen.
>> It's a bit extreme but interesting to see from a distance.
>
> It works more effectively with explosives, so I hear.  That's how they
> put out some of the big oil fires in Kuwait after the first gulf war,
> IIRC.
>

IIRC the shock wave has more to do with it than the depletion of oxygen. 
When using explosives. Might be wrong, though.



>> Yes, reading the subtly between the lines. I get that impression ;-)
>
> Oh, good, I was afraid I might be being too subtle. ;)
>

Just a bit, IMO. But I dug deep. ;-)


>> No, I've not. But I have read a lot of 1950's and 60's SF. So I know
>> that I am only wishing on you. What you have already prophesied. :-P
>
> Fortunately, Canada is only a 4 hour drive away for me  now. ;)
>

I Don't know about that being much better. If you believe Margaret 
Atwood's The Handmaid's Tale.


>> No. It was a local comic. Some young teuchter lad running around the
>> Highlands, righting wrongs and breaking unnoticed hearts.
>
> I liked my answer better. ;)
>

You would say that wouldn't you? :-P

RIP
Mandy Rice-Davies. :-(

>>> I've got pretty good aim, or used to - though the second time skeet
>>> shooting, I didn't do so well.  It helps to hold the shotgun tight in
>>> your *shoulder*, not your upper arm.  Doing the latter will give you a
>>> very sore arm, and you won't be able to hit *anything* you intend to.
>>>
>>>
>> Even I knew that.
>> I had an imaginary lesson from a Yorkshire farmer. When I was working
>> offshore.
>
> The weird thing is that I got it right the first time, and really
> couldn't miss.  Nobody noticed I was holding the gun wrong the second
> time, or they were taking great joy out of seeing that I couldn't hit the
> broad side of a barn and couldn't see why. :)
>


It is funny how we can do things correctly the first time but take years 
to get it right the second time. :-)

-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Trio
Date: 31 Dec 2014 20:00:51
Message: <54a49c43$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 31 Dec 2014 18:19:46 +0000, Stephen wrote:

>>> That's one way of breaking the fire triangle. Burn off all the oxygen.
>>> It's a bit extreme but interesting to see from a distance.
>>
>> It works more effectively with explosives, so I hear.  That's how they
>> put out some of the big oil fires in Kuwait after the first gulf war,
>> IIRC.
>>
>>
> IIRC the shock wave has more to do with it than the depletion of oxygen.
> When using explosives. Might be wrong, though.

I seem to recall that the purpose was to evacuate the oxygen - so it's a 
combination of the shockwave pushing oxygen out and oxygen being used up, 
probably. :)

>>> Yes, reading the subtly between the lines. I get that impression ;-)
>>
>> Oh, good, I was afraid I might be being too subtle. ;)
>>
> Just a bit, IMO. But I dug deep. ;-)

I suspected you were up for the challenge. ;)

>>> No, I've not. But I have read a lot of 1950's and 60's SF. So I know
>>> that I am only wishing on you. What you have already prophesied. :-P
>>
>> Fortunately, Canada is only a 4 hour drive away for me  now. ;)
>>
> I Don't know about that being much better. If you believe Margaret
> Atwood's The Handmaid's Tale.

I've been to Vancouver, and it did have a different feel in that regard.  
Probably headed back up there in January for a few days, too.

>>> No. It was a local comic. Some young teuchter lad running around the
>>> Highlands, righting wrongs and breaking unnoticed hearts.
>>
>> I liked my answer better. ;)
>>
> You would say that wouldn't you? :-P

But of course. :)

> RIP Mandy Rice-Davies. :-(

I'm not sure I follow that connection.

>> The weird thing is that I got it right the first time, and really
>> couldn't miss.  Nobody noticed I was holding the gun wrong the second
>> time, or they were taking great joy out of seeing that I couldn't hit
>> the broad side of a barn and couldn't see why. :)
>
> It is funny how we can do things correctly the first time but take years
> to get it right the second time. :-)

Ain't that the truth. :)

Jim



-- 
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Trio
Date: 1 Jan 2015 05:10:53
Message: <54a51d2d$1@news.povray.org>
On 01/01/2015 01:00, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Dec 2014 18:19:46 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>>>> That's one way of breaking the fire triangle. Burn off all the oxygen.
>>>> It's a bit extreme but interesting to see from a distance.
>>>
>>> It works more effectively with explosives, so I hear.  That's how they
>>> put out some of the big oil fires in Kuwait after the first gulf war,
>>> IIRC.
>>>
>>>
>> IIRC the shock wave has more to do with it than the depletion of oxygen.
>> When using explosives. Might be wrong, though.
>
> I seem to recall that the purpose was to evacuate the oxygen - so it's a
> combination of the shockwave pushing oxygen out and oxygen being used up,
> probably. :)
>

Looks spectacular, doesn't it?

Bye the bye, have you heard of Craig Brown? A British satirist.
About 4 or 5 minutes into this is his methodology for dealing with 
fires. John Humphrys (RL bad ass Radio and TV journalist) interviewing 
Hamlet prince of Denmark, is cleverly done.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00b7qs7




>> I Don't know about that being much better. If you believe Margaret
>> Atwood's The Handmaid's Tale.
>
> I've been to Vancouver, and it did have a different feel in that regard.
> Probably headed back up there in January for a few days, too.
>

You're on the French side, are you not?
Bring back some funny stories about their Language Police.


>> You would say that wouldn't you? :-P
>
> But of course. :)
>
>> RIP Mandy Rice-Davies. :-(
>
> I'm not sure I follow that connection.
>

It is a phrase that has past into the language. Mandy Rice-Davies, who 
just died recently, said it in political sex scandal from the early 1960s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandy_Rice-Davies#.22He_would.2C_wouldn.27t_he.3F.22

Her name also lives on in Hamish Imlach's song to the tune of tupenny rice.

Half a pound for Mandy Rice
Half a pound for Keeler
That the way the money goes,
Ten bob to…


>> It is funny how we can do things correctly the first time but take years
>> to get it right the second time. :-)
>
> Ain't that the truth. :)
>

I am afraid it is.

-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Trio
Date: 1 Jan 2015 13:54:38
Message: <54a597ee$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 01 Jan 2015 10:10:48 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 01/01/2015 01:00, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Wed, 31 Dec 2014 18:19:46 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>>>> That's one way of breaking the fire triangle. Burn off all the
>>>>> oxygen.
>>>>> It's a bit extreme but interesting to see from a distance.
>>>>
>>>> It works more effectively with explosives, so I hear.  That's how
>>>> they put out some of the big oil fires in Kuwait after the first gulf
>>>> war, IIRC.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> IIRC the shock wave has more to do with it than the depletion of
>>> oxygen.
>>> When using explosives. Might be wrong, though.
>>
>> I seem to recall that the purpose was to evacuate the oxygen - so it's
>> a combination of the shockwave pushing oxygen out and oxygen being used
>> up,
>> probably. :)
>>
>>
> Looks spectacular, doesn't it?

Yeah. :)

> Bye the bye, have you heard of Craig Brown? A British satirist.
> About 4 or 5 minutes into this is his methodology for dealing with
> fires. John Humphrys (RL bad ass Radio and TV journalist) interviewing
> Hamlet prince of Denmark, is cleverly done.
> 
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00b7qs7

I haven't, but now I've grabbed this, so I'll have a listen. :)

>>> I Don't know about that being much better. If you believe Margaret
>>> Atwood's The Handmaid's Tale.
>>
>> I've been to Vancouver, and it did have a different feel in that
>> regard. Probably headed back up there in January for a few days, too.
>>
> You're on the French side, are you not?
> Bring back some funny stories about their Language Police.

That's the eastern end - Quebec, mainly (I've got a friend who lives in 
Montreal), but I do recall seeing signs on the roads in French & English 
when I drove up last year.

>>> You would say that wouldn't you? :-P
>>
>> But of course. :)
>>
>>> RIP Mandy Rice-Davies. :-(
>>
>> I'm not sure I follow that connection.
>>
>>
> It is a phrase that has past into the language. Mandy Rice-Davies, who
> just died recently, said it in political sex scandal from the early
> 1960s.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandy_Rice-
Davies#.22He_would.2C_wouldn.27t_he.3F.22
> 
> Her name also lives on in Hamish Imlach's song to the tune of tupenny
> rice.
> 
> Half a pound for Mandy Rice Half a pound for Keeler That the way the
> money goes,
> Ten bob to…

Ah, I see now.  Always learning. :)

Jim

-- 
"I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and 
besides, the pig likes it." - George Bernard Shaw


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From: Cousin Ricky
Subject: Re: Trio
Date: 1 Jan 2015 19:02:18
Message: <54a5e00a@news.povray.org>
On 12/31/2014 01:54 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Dec 2014 09:51:19 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
> It works more effectively with explosives, so I hear.  That's how they
> put out some of the big oil fires in Kuwait after the first gulf war,
> IIRC.

http://io9.com/watch-a-pair-of-tank-mounted-fighter-jet-engines-exting-1675620218


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Trio
Date: 2 Jan 2015 12:07:46
Message: <54A6D04D.50907@gmail.com>
On 31-12-2014 10:02, Stephen wrote:
> On 28/12/2014 21:21, andrel wrote:
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/8ksegle
>>>
>>>
>> Coincidence or not, a short part of it was shown today on the television
>> in a program on our yearly tradition of the top2000 songs. This year it
>> is at number 1155.
>
> It does not surprise me. It has become a bit of a classic. Even used as
> a football chant, over here.
>
that it is in the chart does not surprise me either. Just that they did 
show about 9 short clips that dat and that this was one of them.



-- 
Everytime the IT department forbids something that a researcher deems
necessary for her work there will be another hole in the firewall.


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From: Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann
Subject: Re: Trio
Date: 2 Jan 2015 13:54:07
Message: <54a6e94f$1@news.povray.org>
Hi(gh)!

On 27.12.2014 20:19, Nekar Xenos wrote:

> I would like to live in a place that doesn't get any hotter than 24 deg
> Celsius and doesn't go below 0 - though snow would be cool :)

What about Tristan da Cunha? Also not too far from South Africa... and 
snow you get there every winter around the summit of Queen Mary's Peak! 
But beware of sudden gusts when skiing...

See you in Khyberspace!

Yadgar

Now playing: The Medal Song (Culture Club)


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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: Trio
Date: 3 Jan 2015 05:40:00
Message: <web.54a7c674b5a7cbb3c1b5b9e40@news.povray.org>
=?ISO-8859-15?Q?J=F6rg_=27Yadgar=27_Bleimann?= <yaz### [at] gmxde> wrote:
> Hi(gh)!
>
> On 27.12.2014 20:19, Nekar Xenos wrote:
>
> > I would like to live in a place that doesn't get any hotter than 24 deg
> > Celsius and doesn't go below 0 - though snow would be cool :)
>
> What about Tristan da Cunha? Also not too far from South Africa... and
> snow you get there every winter around the summit of Queen Mary's Peak!
> But beware of sudden gusts when skiing...
>
> See you in Khyberspace!
>
> Yadgar
>
> Now playing: The Medal Song (Culture Club)

I would love to go there one day. I would love to take photos of those little
side craters from a chopper. It looks great on Google Earth, so it must be even
better.

-Nekar Xenos-


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